jboticsource: 09/01/08 00:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 09/01/08 00:04 should I go get this paperwork tomorrow or does an officer need to do it? #rhrt: 09/01/08 00:06 i think you can just fill out the paperwork #rhrt: 09/01/08 00:06 you can probably pick it up (the office int he south east corner on 2nd floor #rhrt: 09/01/08 00:06 two years ago i remember needing the advisor to sign off on it, but i don't think i did last year #rhrt: 09/01/08 00:15 Grab some for me too. #rhrt: 09/01/08 00:17 tommost: will do #rhrt: 09/01/08 00:20 Thanks. #rhrt: 09/01/08 00:20 Are we thinking that we'll keep the same meeting times this year? TheBrickWahl: 09/01/08 00:45 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/01/08 08:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/01/08 08:23 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 09/01/08 09:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/01/08 09:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/01/08 09:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/01/08 09:41 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/01/08 10:13 I got the room access papers but I need a faculty member to sign it #rhrt: 09/01/08 10:13 who should I ask? #rhrt: 09/01/08 10:15 padgett was our advisor, i don't know if that still holds or not #rhrt: 09/01/08 11:40 I got Pete Gustafson to sign our access forms so Tom, Brian, and I should have access starting this afternoon #rhrt: 09/01/08 11:44 Awesome. #rhrt: 09/01/08 11:45 i thought andy submitted the forms for tom, me, jay, and andy already #rhrt: 09/01/08 11:45 Well, I'll have access for two years, then! :D tommost: 09/01/08 12:12 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource: 09/01/08 13:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 09/01/08 15:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/01/08 15:03 >< QUIT : Connection reset by peer jboticsourc1: 09/01/08 16:41 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 09/01/08 16:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 09/01/08 17:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/01/08 17:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/01/08 17:46 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsourc1: 09/01/08 18:00 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 09/01/08 18:19 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsourc1: 09/01/08 19:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/01/08 19:01 for some reason, shipley and i no longer have access to the room #rhrt: 09/01/08 19:01 you guys may not either i am guessing Mishtal: 09/01/08 19:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/01/08 19:14 and i am making a poster thingy for teh activity fair #rhrt: 09/01/08 19:14 so i could use some pictures....tom #rhrt: 09/01/08 19:24 jboticsourc1: nobody has haccess at the moment #rhrt: 09/01/08 19:26 andy753421: well dam that stinks. Do they redo the room each year? #rhrt: 09/01/08 19:30 i got to go jboticsourc1: 09/01/08 19:51 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/01/08 20:07 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/01/08 20:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/01/08 20:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/01/08 20:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 09/01/08 20:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/01/08 22:02 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/01/08 22:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/01/08 22:06 >< PART #rhrt : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/01/08 22:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/01/08 22:17 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/01/08 22:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/01/08 22:17 >< PART #rhrt : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/01/08 22:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/01/08 22:19 >< PART #rhrt : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/01/08 22:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/02/08 00:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/02/08 01:17 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/02/08 01:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/02/08 02:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/02/08 02:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/02/08 03:06 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 09/02/08 03:30 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal: 09/02/08 09:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 09/02/08 13:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/02/08 13:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/02/08 14:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinj1: 09/02/08 14:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinj1: 09/02/08 14:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinj1: 09/02/08 14:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/02/08 15:01 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/02/08 16:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/02/08 16:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/02/08 16:40 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal: 09/02/08 16:47 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) jboticsource: 09/02/08 17:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/02/08 17:27 i got a reply back from sick #rhrt: 09/02/08 17:28 they wont give us one #rhrt: 09/02/08 17:28 as it is policy not to donate #rhrt: 09/02/08 17:28 but we can get 25% off #rhrt: 09/02/08 17:28 which is a start #rhrt: 09/02/08 17:29 there's some japanese company that makes smaller cheaper laser rangefinders, but I don't remember the name right now #rhrt: 09/02/08 17:29 I'll ask my friend what they're name is #rhrt: 09/02/08 17:29 intresting, we may want to look into that #rhrt: 09/02/08 17:45 jboticsource: what model were you asking SICK for? #rhrt: 09/02/08 17:46 any of thier laser range products #rhrt: 09/02/08 17:46 oh, ok #rhrt: 09/02/08 18:28 www.rose-hulman.edu/~kinziejh/Broc.pdf #rhrt: 09/02/08 18:28 this is the newest revision of brochure for the activities fair #rhrt: 09/02/08 18:40 jboticsource: looks good, and it almost made my computer die #rhrt: 09/02/08 18:41 auchter: how did it almost kill your computer? #rhrt: 09/02/08 18:42 xpdf was really slow loading it #rhrt: 09/02/08 18:42 oh ic Mishtal: 09/02/08 19:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/02/08 20:03 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/02/08 20:51 http://www.hokuyo-aut.jp/02sensor/index.html#scanner #rhrt: 09/02/08 20:52 the one my friend was using was a URG-04LX that they got from Acroname Robotics #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:14 the UBG-05LN looks nice #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:15 2500USD #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:18 when i get a chance, i'll look into the differences between that unit (and their others) and the SICK AG units #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:18 even with a 25% discount from SICK, i think the hukuyo are cheaper jboticsource: 09/02/08 21:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:39 jboticsource: I'm wondering since we are only using one side of the paper if a full sheet flyer might be better #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:39 just rearrange the elements to fit on a page that we don't have to fold #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:41 meh, i like the folded look #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:41 it looks more classey #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:45 Not when the back is blank. #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:45 I like the flyer. #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:45 Plus then we can pin the up around campus. #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:46 we can pin the current version around campus #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:46 Also, I don't want to be the one folding them. #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:46 It would look odd pinned up. #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:47 tommost: i think it would look good pinned. make a design then and show me something that you would use #rhrt: 09/02/08 21:53 joboticsource: can you email me either the word file or the images you used so I can make up a flyer? #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:08 um yea #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:08 what is your email? #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:09 wahlnj@rose... #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:12 i sent the flyer #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:12 i got the pics off of the server #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:12 see if any of them catch your fancy #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:13 it is in the process of sending #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:17 this sending is SLOW #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:18 13% #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:22 28% #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:22 this is kinda silly as it is a 5 meg file #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:27 are you on windows sending through exchange? #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:27 erm, outlook #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:27 i am in windows sending through thunderbird #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:28 Gmail or Exchange? #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:29 gmail #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:34 71% #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:40 92% #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:42 99%!!!! #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:56 did you get it? #rhrt: 09/02/08 22:58 jboticsource: I got it TheBrickWahl: 09/02/08 23:12 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Mishtal: 09/02/08 23:32 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Mishtal: 09/02/08 23:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/03/08 00:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/03/08 00:11 http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~wahlnj/ActivitiesFairFlyer.pdf #rhrt: 09/03/08 00:15 TheBrickWahl: looks good #rhrt: 09/03/08 00:25 TheBrickWahl: I really like that as a poster #rhrt: 09/03/08 00:26 Okay then, I guess it's settled. Now I just have to make the poster for behind us. #rhrt: 09/03/08 00:28 It'll be the exact same size as the LUG's. We just need two posts or something. collinjc: 09/03/08 00:40 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/03/08 00:48 I think it's Myers not Meyers jboticsource: 09/03/08 01:30 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/03/08 01:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/03/08 02:27 Oh, yeah, that's right. jboticsource: 09/03/08 02:33 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) TheBrickWahl: 09/03/08 02:34 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/03/08 02:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/03/08 04:08 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/03/08 04:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/03/08 07:55 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/03/08 07:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/03/08 08:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 09/03/08 11:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/03/08 12:04 I fixed the Myers spelling and updated the pdf collinj2: 09/03/08 12:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinj2: 09/03/08 13:04 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/03/08 13:05 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/03/08 14:06 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinj1: 09/03/08 14:06 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinj1: 09/03/08 14:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/03/08 14:39 http://daishi.rose-hulman.edu/~mosttw/lnk/robotics-poster.png #rhrt: 09/03/08 14:39 How's that? tommost: 09/03/08 14:53 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 09/03/08 14:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/03/08 14:57 Any opinions? Otherwise I'm just going to e-mail it to Gary. #rhrt: 09/03/08 15:08 I've changed it again. Last call for comments. collinj2: 09/03/08 15:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/03/08 15:33 I've e-mailed the poster to Gary Burgess. collinj1: 09/03/08 15:34 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/03/08 16:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/03/08 16:52 >< QUIT : Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) #rhrt: 09/03/08 16:55 I have the poster. It looks sharp. jboticsource: 09/03/08 16:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:03 awesome, i'll be in the SRC at 6:30 #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:04 Normally i think we would take stuff down to the SRC with us, but seeing as how none of us have access to the room I don't think that'll matter #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:09 No, we can get into the room. #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:09 Nick, Brian and I have access. #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:09 And Jay, I think. #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:10 ah ok, when did they get the cards working again? #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:10 Yesterday, for us. #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:15 tommost: alright #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:15 when should we commence set up? #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:16 speaking of which, Auchter, have you cleaned up your lab bench? #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:17 I need to take a shower after my laundry gets done.. so let's try meeting at the lab at 6:00 #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:17 Okay. #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:17 wait, that's really early isn't it #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:18 No, we need to do some cleaning. #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:18 n/m that's arbout right #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:18 yea, good idea #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:24 i will be down there in a few #rhrt: 09/03/08 17:39 Brian, Nick and I may be a little late... we're going to dinner in a few minutes. jboticsource: 09/03/08 17:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/03/08 18:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinj2: 09/03/08 18:34 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/03/08 18:36 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." andy753421: 09/03/08 21:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/03/08 21:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinj1: 09/03/08 22:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/03/08 22:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/03/08 22:50 What time are meetings typically held? #rhrt: 09/03/08 22:54 collinj1: tuesdays at 8 or 8:30, depending on how confusing tom makes his email #rhrt: 09/03/08 22:54 Haha! Cool. That sounds good then. I'm just trying to schedule work in. #rhrt: 09/03/08 22:55 Speaking of which, is anyone interested in working at Ventures? We could use at least a couple people on my project. #rhrt: 09/03/08 22:56 auchter: Did Sandor ever contact you with regards to that? #rhrt: 09/03/08 22:58 haha, i've wanted to work at ventures just to see what it's like #rhrt: 09/03/08 22:58 but i'd quit after a week or so, so you probably don't want to hire me #rhrt: 09/03/08 22:59 andy753421: The project is pretty cool. If you are at all interested, you should check it out. It's dealing with an optical router. #rhrt: 09/03/08 22:59 collinj1: i'm pretty sure i'm to busy already #rhrt: 09/03/08 23:00 collinj1: nope #rhrt: 09/03/08 23:00 No problem! #rhrt: 09/03/08 23:00 yeah, i'm way too busy apparently #rhrt: 09/03/08 23:01 Okay. collinj1: 09/03/08 23:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl1: 09/04/08 00:18 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 09/04/08 00:25 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 09/04/08 00:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/04/08 00:47 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/04/08 01:37 >< PART #rhrt : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/04/08 01:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinj1: 09/04/08 07:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinj1: 09/04/08 07:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/04/08 07:56 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/04/08 08:10 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/04/08 08:47 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/04/08 09:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/04/08 09:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_xpvm: 09/04/08 09:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_xpvm: 09/04/08 09:37 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost_xpvm: 09/04/08 09:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_xpvm: 09/04/08 09:40 >< QUIT : Client Quit tommost_xpvm: 09/04/08 09:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/04/08 09:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/04/08 09:59 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost_xpvm: 09/04/08 10:01 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/04/08 10:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinj1: 09/04/08 11:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/04/08 11:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/04/08 12:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinj1: 09/04/08 12:31 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection TheBrickWahl: 09/04/08 12:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/04/08 13:10 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 09/04/08 13:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/04/08 13:27 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/04/08 13:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/04/08 13:46 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 09/04/08 13:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_server: 09/04/08 13:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/04/08 14:07 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 09/04/08 14:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/04/08 14:14 >< QUIT : Client Quit collinjc: 09/04/08 14:22 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/04/08 14:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/04/08 14:57 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 09/04/08 14:57 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net jboticsource: 09/04/08 14:57 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost_aorist: 09/04/08 14:57 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net andy753421: 09/04/08 14:57 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net collinjc_server: 09/04/08 14:57 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net jboticsource: 09/04/08 14:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_server: 09/04/08 14:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/04/08 14:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/04/08 14:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt auchter: 09/04/08 14:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_aorist: 09/04/08 14:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/04/08 15:18 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/04/08 15:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/04/08 16:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/04/08 16:11 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/04/08 16:11 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 09/04/08 16:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/04/08 16:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/04/08 16:49 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 09/04/08 16:58 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." andy753421: 09/04/08 17:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/04/08 17:22 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/04/08 17:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/04/08 18:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/04/08 18:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/04/08 18:50 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 09/04/08 18:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/04/08 19:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/04/08 19:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/04/08 19:11 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/04/08 19:30 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/04/08 19:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/04/08 19:32 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 09/04/08 19:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/04/08 19:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/04/08 19:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/04/08 19:35 >< QUIT : Client Quit collinjc: 09/04/08 19:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/04/08 20:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/04/08 20:29 as of this morning, i did not have access to the robotics room kleinjt: 09/04/08 20:40 >< NICK : kleinjt_eeepc kleinjt_eeepc: 09/04/08 20:40 >< NICK : kleinjt tommost: 09/04/08 20:42 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinj1: 09/04/08 21:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/04/08 21:25 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 09/04/08 21:25 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/04/08 23:24 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/04/08 23:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinj1: 09/04/08 23:46 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/05/08 00:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/05/08 01:31 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/05/08 01:48 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/05/08 01:58 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/05/08 02:06 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/05/08 02:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_server: 09/05/08 05:00 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 09/05/08 05:10 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost: 09/05/08 05:10 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net andy753421: 09/05/08 05:10 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost_aorist: 09/05/08 05:10 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost: 09/05/08 05:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/05/08 05:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt auchter: 09/05/08 05:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_aorist: 09/05/08 05:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/05/08 07:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/05/08 07:34 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/05/08 07:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/05/08 09:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/05/08 10:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_server: 09/05/08 10:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/05/08 10:44 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/05/08 10:45 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/05/08 11:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/05/08 11:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/05/08 11:40 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/05/08 11:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/05/08 11:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/05/08 12:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/05/08 12:46 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/05/08 13:27 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 09/05/08 13:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/05/08 14:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/05/08 14:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_server: 09/05/08 15:24 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 09/05/08 16:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/05/08 16:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/05/08 17:00 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/05/08 17:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/05/08 17:08 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 09/05/08 19:14 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/05/08 21:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal1: 09/05/08 21:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/05/08 21:18 Okay, when is our meeting? #rhrt: 09/05/08 21:18 (The non-freshman one.) Mishtal: 09/05/08 21:26 >< QUIT : Read error: 113 (No route to host) Mishtal1: 09/05/08 21:26 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/05/08 21:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/05/08 21:58 isn't it on the wiki? #rhrt: 09/05/08 21:59 3PM? #rhrt: 09/05/08 21:59 Oh, hey. #rhrt: 09/05/08 21:59 It is. collinjc: 09/06/08 00:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/06/08 00:40 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 09/06/08 02:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/06/08 03:20 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 09/06/08 11:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/06/08 12:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/06/08 12:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/06/08 12:46 >< PART #rhrt : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:14 tommost: should probably continue that in here #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:14 tommost: you want to move http://www.rhitrobotics.org/wiki/electronics/gps to its proper location? #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:15 Well, it used to be that Google didn't regard an underscore as a word splitter, so I got into the habit of using hyphens. You should use hyphens for consistency with the other pages that I have already created, though. #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:15 They're easier to type, anyway. #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:16 yeah, then next thing i know i'm programming something in C and i start using hypens instead of underscores #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:16 then i try to compile and the whole world dies #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:17 I'm thinking that we don't want team divisions like /electronics/ in URLs, since the page is going to have both electrical and software (interfacing) information on it. #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:17 good point, and there's probably going to be significant overlap between the two anyway #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:22 Okay, I'm going to move it. #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:23 alright #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:24 http://www.rhitrobotics.org/wiki/igvc/gps #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:47 so apparently my card doesn't work for the robotics lab #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:47 anyone want to let me in? #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:48 I'll do it. I need a desk to get any work done anyway. #rhrt: 09/06/08 13:48 ok, thanks tommost: 09/06/08 13:51 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 09/06/08 14:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/06/08 14:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/06/08 15:11 I'm doing some Apache configuration right now, so thinks aren't going to work properly with the web site for a little while. jboticsourc1: 09/06/08 16:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/06/08 16:42 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 09/06/08 17:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/06/08 18:31 Okay, SVN access is up. #rhrt: 09/06/08 18:31 I have also configured HTTPS, so you can login to the wiki without fear. collinjc: 09/06/08 19:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/06/08 19:20 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/06/08 19:22 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc: 09/06/08 19:28 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/06/08 19:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/06/08 19:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt1: 09/06/08 20:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/06/08 20:15 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt1: 09/06/08 20:46 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/06/08 21:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt1: 09/06/08 21:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt1: 09/06/08 21:21 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 09/06/08 21:27 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/06/08 22:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/06/08 23:35 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/06/08 23:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/06/08 23:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/06/08 23:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/07/08 02:12 I've committed the new logos, etc. to the administrative repository. #rhrt: 09/07/08 02:13 jboticsourc1: Could you commit the current budget to the administrative repository? It goes in finance/budgets TheBrickWahl: 09/07/08 02:48 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/07/08 02:50 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 09/07/08 02:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/07/08 03:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 09/07/08 03:58 >< QUIT : Connection reset by peer andy753421: 09/07/08 04:48 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/07/08 04:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/07/08 11:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/07/08 11:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinj1: 09/07/08 11:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/07/08 11:43 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinj1: 09/07/08 11:43 >< NICK : kleinjt TheBrickWahl1: 09/07/08 12:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/07/08 13:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/07/08 13:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/07/08 13:14 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Mishtal: 09/07/08 14:11 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/07/08 14:33 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/07/08 14:37 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 09/07/08 15:02 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/07/08 15:17 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Mishtal: 09/07/08 15:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/07/08 15:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/07/08 15:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/07/08 15:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/07/08 16:05 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/07/08 16:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/07/08 16:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/07/08 16:32 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/07/08 16:41 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 09/07/08 16:49 Which is the better Rose username: mac or carlsofa? Mishtal: 09/07/08 16:53 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection #rhrt: 09/07/08 16:53 the latter, by far andy753421: 09/07/08 16:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/07/08 16:55 I talked to Dave Mutcher, he said he'd sign papers for us but it sounded like he wouldn't be all that involved with the club #rhrt: 09/07/08 16:56 I have 66 e-mail addresses here. #rhrt: 09/07/08 16:56 andy753421: well, at least we have a backup plan #rhrt: 09/07/08 16:56 Most of them have terrible handwriting. auchter, the computer was the right way to go. #rhrt: 09/07/08 16:56 Speaking of backup... #rhrt: 09/07/08 16:56 The server needs to be backed up. #rhrt: 09/07/08 16:57 vbackup! #rhrt: 09/07/08 16:57 ACTION sighs #rhrt: 09/07/08 16:58 I think that we should get a very large flash drive. #rhrt: 09/07/08 17:00 looks like throne isn't an advisor for any of the clubs... #rhrt: 09/07/08 17:02 though it looks like his interests are mostly medical, oddly enough #rhrt: 09/07/08 17:03 teaches a lot of control systems classes, though #rhrt: 09/07/08 17:15 Holy shit. I just got a subscription notification for every person I put on the list. tommost: 09/07/08 17:25 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc: 09/07/08 17:34 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/07/08 17:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/07/08 18:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/07/08 18:36 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/07/08 18:41 i just sent the email to jaret goulding about sending out an all faculty email andy753421: 09/07/08 18:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/07/08 18:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/07/08 18:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:03 kleinjt: so, i think some of the mosfets on the one motor controller are shot #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:04 i'm going to desolder them all, and put 4 new ones in (good enough for short tests) and then go through and test the ones i take off tommost: 09/07/08 19:20 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 09/07/08 19:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:23 this is an overview of the SLLR that i was talking about at the meeting #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:23 http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encoder/200110/vision.htm #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:35 auchter: ok, do we have spares to place on the board? #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:35 good question, i thought we did, but i might be wrong #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:36 I don't remember any extras when populating the boards #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:36 s/don't/did not #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:37 ok. well, worst case, i can remove all from the broken board, and take half from the working board #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:37 and test the 16 removed from the broken board #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:39 auchter: Do you recall the model of the mosfet? #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:39 irf1405 #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:39 i've also got some mosfets around my apartment, though i don't recall what model or how many #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:41 i think i've also got some moderately large caps around here, too #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:46 I've got more than four P16NF06s, and they've got the same pinout tommost: 09/07/08 19:50 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 09/07/08 19:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/07/08 19:52 those look like they'd work jboticsourc1: 09/07/08 20:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt1: 09/07/08 20:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/07/08 20:17 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/07/08 20:28 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/07/08 20:29 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 09/07/08 20:31 http://pr.willowgarage.com/ collinjc: 09/07/08 20:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/07/08 20:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/07/08 20:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:00 tommost: what is "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." from? #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:04 Jabberwocky. #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:04 oh ok, i had heard that sentence in several places, but knew where it was from kleinjt1: 09/07/08 21:16 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:17 did anybody bother to read the 2 links i posted earlier? #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:18 the first was more interesting than the second #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:18 i skimmed the second and then closed it when it looked more like a marketing page than a page with anything interesting on it #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:19 the first was more important than the second #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:19 what do you think of having a system like that on the robot? #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:19 we could also not even consider using a CPLD, which would be fine with me #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:20 CPLD? #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:20 laser range finder? #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:20 no, on that page, see the nice scary looking chip and the crazy code? that. #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:22 we can do the implementation how we see fit #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:22 but what about the concept and system? #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:22 the second link people are scary. they did a cad workup of their workspace, and have a barcode inventory system on their test equipment #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:23 conceptually, i didn't really see much that was interesting on that page, it's a pretty straightforward idea #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:23 it'd be fun to play with though #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:23 i also have experience working with that system. JP Mellor does as well #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:24 jp is all things vision #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:32 i think that we could do something like that for 200$ max #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:33 the optics set up is like 100 ish #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:33 we could do something sexy and have our current camera do double duty #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:33 so it is in normal mode and looking around #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:34 then the bot decides that it wants more information on an obsticle #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:34 then a servo moves a filter over the lens of the camera #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:34 and the laser is turned on #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:35 the robot then advances and then aquires information about the obsticle #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:35 it would be great to tell where the speed bumps and ramps are #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:35 as the grass will reflect a much more unclean signal #rhrt: 09/07/08 21:36 it may also make it easier to tell how far apart obstacles are from one another so we can fit though kleinjt: 09/07/08 21:51 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. TheBrickWahl: 09/07/08 22:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/07/08 22:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl2: 09/07/08 22:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/07/08 22:12 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) kleinjt: 09/07/08 22:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/07/08 22:18 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl1: 09/07/08 22:20 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 09/07/08 22:27 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 09/07/08 22:37 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommost: 09/07/08 22:55 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 09/07/08 23:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt1: 09/07/08 23:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt1: 09/07/08 23:04 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/07/08 23:08 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 09/07/08 23:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 09/07/08 23:09 >< NICK : tommost tommost: 09/07/08 23:09 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 09/07/08 23:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 09/07/08 23:09 >< NICK : tommost tommost: 09/07/08 23:09 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 09/07/08 23:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 09/07/08 23:10 >< NICK : tommost #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:38 tommost: how is that names list coming? #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:38 Hm? I mentioned earlier that I'd entered them all into the mailing list database. #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:39 ok #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:39 we have just one day left to email #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:39 and freshman suck at reading email #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:39 You think that I should e-mail them now? #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:39 And again on Tuesday? #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:39 i would do it as soon as the names list is done #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:39 yes #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:39 both days #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:40 Okay. #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:40 put something in about unsubscribing if you don't want to be on the list (for graduated people and such) #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:41 actually, n/m it does that automatically #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:43 Yeah. #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:49 Okay, sent. #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:49 tommost: ++ #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:49 s/: // #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:50 :'( #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:50 wat? #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:50 tommost: why are you crying? #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:51 It doesn't count if you get the syntax wrong. #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:51 It only understands prefix and postfix notation. #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:51 so how should i do it? #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:51 tommost:++ #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:52 Without the colon. My name does not include a colon. #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:52 tommost ++ #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:52 like that? #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:52 No, no spaces allowed. #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:52 tommost++ #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:52 There we go. :D #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:53 cool, glad we got the pat on the back syntax sorted out #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:54 my message was a bit more concise #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:56 auchter: True, but he didn't understand it, so it wasn't much use. #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:56 jboticsourc1 <-- OpE #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:57 jboticsourc1 := OpE #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:57 I suppose that that is more appropriate, yes. #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:57 nick and i are the only part of the mechE team that is in chat #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:57 out of like 4 - 6 #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:57 Well, the rest of them probably don't know that this channel exists. #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:57 you have got to give us some credit there #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:58 the others dont use aim or irc #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:58 etc #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:58 I'm guessing that they do use AIM. #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:58 I wrote this for your team: https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/internal/joining-irc #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:59 i am guessing not, i think i asked them and said no. they are not intertubewebnettuck ppl #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:59 I even did it on Windows. ;) #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:59 pidgin lightweight? hah! even my terminals aren't lightweight enough for me! #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:59 yea i saw that, that was nice of yoru #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:59 Who the heck doesn't use any chat program? #rhrt: 09/07/08 23:59 and i'm copying that into #rhlug to piss off morasique #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:00 there are many ppl that dont use aim #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:01 Yeah, but they generally use something else like MSN or Yahoo. (I'm talking about Rose students here.) #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:12 i will re-ask, but i am pretty sure that they dont #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:13 Don't bother; we'll pimp IRC on Tuesday. #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:13 haah #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:13 pimp my client #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:15 tommost : in the email you should have put where the room is #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:15 Yes. Well, that'll be in tomorrow's. #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:15 ok #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:17 it just seemed like an easy thing to forget so i asked. #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:17 No, thank you. I may have forgotten it; I do that sort of think. #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:17 *thing. #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:18 do we actually have a room? are we meeting in the myers presentation room? (is it even available at that time?) #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:18 We've been advertising M233 #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:19 well, not many people will fit in that room #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:19 yea, was I supposed to check about getting the presentation room or was someone else doing that? #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:19 Probably you. #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:20 mkay #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:21 Well, I just got e-mails from two people asking where we meet. #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:21 yea.... #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:22 What's the room number of the presentation room? #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:23 M137 #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:24 be sure to like make sure in teh email that despite we have been telling them m233 #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:24 to go to the new room #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:24 we'll put a sign up anyway #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:31 I said that we weren't sure yet. #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:49 Okay, I hope that's been solved. #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:50 wow, tom's getting talented at spamming us all #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:50 I'm terribly sorry. #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:51 we should get everybody's emaisl so that we can send out all campus emails #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:51 We can't send out messages with >50 recipients. #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:51 Someone already thought of that. #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:51 oh lol #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:52 tommost how many people were there on the list? #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:52 I added 66 addresses. #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:52 I heard someone wrote a program that would send an email to 50 people at a time and eventually get the whole campus #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:52 That wouldn't surprise me. #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:55 i dont know what i would send if i could do that other than dont do what i am doing now #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:56 or i will spam you by doing this #rhrt: 09/08/08 00:58 actually that would be great idea. every time someone sends a spam all campus email, 5 "don't spam" all campus emails then are sent. It is like email terrorism but justified. TheBrickWahl2: 09/08/08 01:43 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsourc1: 09/08/08 02:21 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 09/08/08 07:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/08/08 07:31 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/08/08 07:48 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/08/08 08:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/08/08 08:21 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/08/08 08:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/08/08 08:45 >< PART #rhrt : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/08/08 08:53 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 09/08/08 09:48 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource: 09/08/08 10:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/08/08 10:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/08/08 10:08 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/08/08 10:19 we've got M137 reserved from 8:00-9:00 tomorrow collinjc: 09/08/08 10:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/08/08 10:32 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/08/08 10:48 great Mishtal: 09/08/08 10:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/08/08 11:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/08/08 11:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/08/08 11:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/08/08 11:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/08/08 12:00 hey, i want to get into the lab around 4:15 today, anyone going to be around who has access? #rhrt: 09/08/08 12:01 I can be there. #rhrt: 09/08/08 12:01 ok, awesome TheBrickWahl: 09/08/08 12:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/08/08 12:03 Also, someone has e-mailed me about getting the materials from the meeting tomorrow e-mailed to him if he is forced to miss it. I'd like the presenters to place their orientation stuff on the meeting's wiki page. Mishtal: 09/08/08 12:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/08/08 12:21 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection #rhrt: 09/08/08 12:23 tommost: actually, around 1:35 would be better for me to go to the lab #rhrt: 09/08/08 12:23 Okay. jboticsource: 09/08/08 12:24 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 09/08/08 12:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/08/08 12:31 >< QUIT : Client Quit Mishtal: 09/08/08 12:34 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 09/08/08 12:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/08/08 12:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/08/08 12:55 what do you think about getting our meeting times on teh campus calendar #rhrt: 09/08/08 12:55 ? TheBrickWahl: 09/08/08 12:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/08/08 12:59 jboticsource: We can't. You have to submit that stuff last year. #rhrt: 09/08/08 13:00 hmm jboticsource: 09/08/08 13:07 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/08/08 13:20 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource: 09/08/08 13:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 09/08/08 13:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/08/08 13:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/08/08 13:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 09/08/08 13:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/08/08 13:49 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsourc1: 09/08/08 13:54 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 09/08/08 14:05 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/08/08 14:06 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/08/08 14:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/08/08 14:20 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:28 Colin just e-mailed me; apparently he'll be there tomorrow, probably with Burchett and Onyacha and maybe Fisher (whom I assume are the mechanical team people that I don't know the names of). #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:29 onyacha at least is a prof #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:29 burchett is as well #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:30 He made it sound like Fisher is, too. #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:30 indeed #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:30 http://dpaste.com/76728/ #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:30 Gah, stupid Outlook wrapped e-mails. #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:30 s/wrapped/non-wrapped #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:30 is it wise to invite profs to what should be a student session? #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:31 wouldn't it be better to talk to them privately? #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:31 I don't know what's going on. shadghost_eeepc: 09/08/08 14:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt shiplecs: 09/08/08 14:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:46 hello #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:46 had to get the software #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:46 hi tom #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:46 Hello. #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:46 Okay, so what's the plan? #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:47 I am asking them to come and check out the robotics teams and that we are in need of an advisor #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:47 i am not telling them that we are offering it, just that we need an advisor #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:48 i have asked burchett and onyacha to come, i am about to leave to ask Fisher (who does robotics) to come as well to the meeting tomorrow @8pm #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:48 That sounds good to me, though ideally we want an ECE advisor, I think. #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:48 Fisher was recomended by alot of the proffs i talked to #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:49 The meeting tomorrow is mainly intended for students, but there will be an overview to start with that should be a good thing for them to see. #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:49 This is the agenda: http://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/meetings/2008-09-09 #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:49 good #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:50 fisher teaches Mechatronic Systems #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:50 incase that means anything to you #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:51 It does. #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:52 well i have to run and invite fisher #rhrt: 09/08/08 14:52 lata shiplecs: 09/08/08 14:52 >< QUIT : "Leaving." shadghost_eeepc: 09/08/08 15:00 >< QUIT : "ubuntu is up" #rhrt: 09/08/08 15:36 Some guy just came into the lab and told me that the second door needs to be closed. WTF? jboticsource: 09/08/08 16:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/08/08 16:36 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 09/08/08 17:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/08/08 18:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/08/08 19:52 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 09/08/08 20:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/08/08 21:33 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/08/08 21:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/08/08 22:02 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 09/08/08 22:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/08/08 22:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/08/08 22:15 >< QUIT : Client Quit andy753421: 09/08/08 22:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 09/08/08 22:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/08/08 22:36 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) collinjc: 09/08/08 23:42 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/09/08 00:57 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/09/08 00:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 09/09/08 01:16 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/09/08 01:18 Did anyone reserve a room? #rhrt: 09/09/08 01:29 tommost i did not reserve a room. i thought you were going to reserve one. #rhrt: 09/09/08 01:36 I thought that andy753421 was going to do it. #rhrt: 09/09/08 01:37 Well, I'm definitely not going to have time to do it tomorrow... my schedule is solid. #rhrt: 09/09/08 01:56 tommost where is it that we need to go? #rhrt: 09/09/08 02:01 The Myers presentation room, M137. #rhrt: 09/09/08 02:02 to get the authorization to have it? #rhrt: 09/09/08 02:03 See if it's free, get authorization, and anything we might need to get into it. #rhrt: 09/09/08 02:05 ok #rhrt: 09/09/08 02:05 i can do this at noon btw #rhrt: 09/09/08 02:06 if no one else can do it earlier, then i will take it #rhrt: 09/09/08 02:08 It's probably you, then. Good night.' #rhrt: 09/09/08 02:08 night #rhrt: 09/09/08 02:11 we already have the M137 reserved #rhrt: 09/09/08 02:12 oh ok,, sweet andy753421: 09/09/08 02:20 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/09/08 02:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/09/08 06:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/09/08 07:25 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/09/08 07:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/09/08 08:40 >< PART #rhrt : "Leaving." jboticsourc1: 09/09/08 08:50 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/09/08 09:49 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 09/09/08 09:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/09/08 10:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/09/08 10:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/09/08 10:12 tommost_aorist++ for a non-confusing email tommost_aorist: 09/09/08 10:17 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/09/08 10:19 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/09/08 10:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost_aorist: 09/09/08 10:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/09/08 11:05 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/09/08 11:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/09/08 11:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/09/08 11:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/09/08 12:34 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/09/08 13:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/09/08 13:35 is it tom miller that we have to get the door access form signed by? collinjc: 09/09/08 13:40 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/09/08 13:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/09/08 14:24 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/09/08 15:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt ncw000: 09/09/08 15:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/09/08 15:50 tommost this is mistal setting up an IRC account for Nathan from energenuity. He has a question about the meeting #rhrt: 09/09/08 15:50 Sure. #rhrt: 09/09/08 15:50 How long is the meeting going to be? #rhrt: 09/09/08 15:51 Not sure. Hopefully (and probably) less than 2 hours, since I have work at 10:00. #rhrt: 09/09/08 15:51 Oh ok, thanks. That works for me. ncw000: 09/09/08 15:57 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/09/08 16:13 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." ncw000: 09/09/08 16:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt ncw000: 09/09/08 16:17 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/09/08 16:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/09/08 17:08 andy753421: What exactly are you planning on presenting today? jboticsource: 09/09/08 17:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 09/09/08 17:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/09/08 17:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/09/08 17:50 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 09/09/08 17:52 yeah, so about this stuff tonight #rhrt: 09/09/08 17:52 are we planning on going over the stuff generally, then splitting up into subgroups? #rhrt: 09/09/08 17:52 wear the shirts #rhrt: 09/09/08 17:52 oh, right. #rhrt: 09/09/08 17:53 i thought that we were going to do a general talk, then split into groups and do more talking #rhrt: 09/09/08 17:53 and answer some more questions #rhrt: 09/09/08 17:53 ok, good #rhrt: 09/09/08 17:54 not going to lie, i am pretty pumped up #rhrt: 09/09/08 17:55 PUMPED UP #rhrt: 09/09/08 17:55 good, so i should talk before you then #rhrt: 09/09/08 17:55 so we end on an energetic note? #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:00 I'm going to go over to the lab, if anyone wants to gain entry. #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:00 i'll be there in a bit tommost: 09/09/08 18:00 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:07 We have a co-advisor? #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:08 i guess so...i had no idea #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:24 i remember kevin mentioning it #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:30 tommost_aorist: I'm not exactly sure what I'm going to talk about beyond what's posted on Trac #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:30 I'm planning to take a shower and then drive down to walmart to get some cookies/soda then i'm going to head over to myers #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:31 it'd be nice if the officers could show up a bit early (7:30ish) so we can go over everything and make sure laptops and such are set up #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:31 i'm heading over now #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:31 i'm also planning on making a sideshow for the general one #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:32 is someone able to talk in detail about the competition? #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:32 i can most likely #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:34 actually, i lied. i'm going to have an espresso then be right over, so figure about 20-30 minutes tommost: 09/09/08 18:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/09/08 18:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/09/08 18:47 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:48 collinjc: hey, could i borrow your desoldering iron? #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:49 Sure. When do you need it? #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:49 oh, right, you're in the lab #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:49 uh, anytime really #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:50 i'm going to be heading to rose now, so i'll talk to you about it later #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:50 Would after the robotics meeting be okay? #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:50 i'm probably not going to work on it tonight #rhrt: 09/09/08 18:56 andy753421: Are you there? #rhrt: 09/09/08 19:26 i just got back from getting foods #rhrt: 09/09/08 19:27 Ah, okay. I wanted to make sure that you know where the pictures from IGVC are. #rhrt: 09/09/08 19:28 although, i haven't actually had a chance to make slides yet though #rhrt: 09/09/08 19:30 I'm going to eat dinner really quick, i'll be over in ~10 minutes #rhrt: 09/09/08 19:30 Okay. #rhrt: 09/09/08 19:34 tommost: so where are pictures? #rhrt: 09/09/08 19:36 is there any reason for me to bring my laptop? #rhrt: 09/09/08 19:37 /home/mosttw/Pictures #rhrt: 09/09/08 19:41 Mishtal: I don't think so. #rhrt: 09/09/08 19:41 good andy753421: 09/09/08 19:42 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/09/08 19:52 >< QUIT : "Leaving." cpt_obvious: 09/09/08 21:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt cpt_obvious: 09/09/08 21:08 >< QUIT : Client Quit Mishtal: 09/09/08 21:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/09/08 21:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt Skneter: 09/09/08 21:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/09/08 22:04 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 09/09/08 22:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/09/08 22:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/09/08 22:24 well, that seems to have went reasonably well #rhrt: 09/09/08 22:24 and there's a new person here, though i'm not sure who #rhrt: 09/09/08 22:24 Sketner++ kleinjt: 09/09/08 22:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/09/08 22:54 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 09/09/08 23:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/09/08 23:14 Mishtal: http://mailman.rose-hulman.edu/mailman/listinfo/arc #rhrt: 09/09/08 23:23 got it and signed up TheBrickWahl1: 09/09/08 23:30 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 09/09/08 23:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 09/09/08 23:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/09/08 23:59 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource: 09/10/08 00:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/10/08 00:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:25 There are a few people who missed tonight's meeting but are still interested in joining the club. I'm thinking that I'll direct them to come to the LUG meeting or next week's administrative meeting to get caught up. What do you think? #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:26 how about next weeks admin meeting? #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:27 i think that teh clubs should say seperate #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:27 I was thinking the LUG meeting because it's sooner—software, at least, has meeting(s) before then. And all of the officers/team leaders will be there. #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:28 maybe so, but i think that mixing clubs in that fashion detracts from both clubs TheBrickWahl: 09/10/08 00:29 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:31 i agree with jay #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:31 andy753421: was the software team planning on having an "intro to linux" session for robotics? #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:31 Okay. And the next administrative meeting will be at 7:30 Tuesday? #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:32 there will be an intro to linux session, but I would rather have that associated with the LUG #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:32 yes #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:32 well, i was thinking of one perhaps more tailored to robotics, covering svn and such as well #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:32 Good point. #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:32 people should definitely come to the coreutils presentation when/if we have one #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:33 yes, i figured we could have the intro to linux and then a robotics session afterwards #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:33 ok, sounds good #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:33 to draw a venn diagram.. ( ( intro to linux ) robotics ) #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:34 that's all lisp to me #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:35 hehe, we also need to start working on an intro to linux wiki page #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:35 Actually, I was just starting that. #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:36 we should make a sidebar for new linux users and link the ubuntu install and that, and maybe something else TheBrickWahl: 09/10/08 00:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:43 moving this to the lug channel: #rhrt: 09/10/08 00:58 https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/software/linux?version=1 #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:00 cat robotics/wiki/software/linux > lug/wiki/linux_intro #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:13 tommost: using the full svn commands (svn checkout instead of svn co) might be easier for some people to remember, as you're not just throwing strings of characters at them #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:14 Good point. #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:14 Feel free to make that change, and add anything else that seems pertinent. ;) #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:15 i'll change that, but i'll add stuff tomorrow #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:16 Please make sure this is correct: https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/meetings?version=4 #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:33 Please update the page I linked. #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:33 jboticsource: #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:35 ok #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:39 tommost it is done #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:39 Thanks. #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:41 andy753421: You changed the key on the server, right? #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:41 who is skneter? #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:41 tommost yes #rhrt: 09/10/08 01:42 well, ubuntu did, when it updated TheBrickWahl: 09/10/08 02:27 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/10/08 04:59 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net Mishtal: 09/10/08 04:59 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 09/10/08 04:59 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost: 09/10/08 04:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/10/08 04:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt auchter: 09/10/08 04:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/10/08 05:06 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost: 09/10/08 05:06 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 09/10/08 05:06 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost: 09/10/08 05:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/10/08 05:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt auchter: 09/10/08 05:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/10/08 08:48 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/10/08 08:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/10/08 09:08 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/10/08 09:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/10/08 09:32 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/10/08 09:46 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/10/08 09:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/10/08 09:57 andy753421: Are we having a software meeting tonight? #rhrt: 09/10/08 09:58 And, in general, should I say that everyone's meetings begin this week in the e-mail? kleinjt: 09/10/08 10:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/10/08 10:12 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/10/08 10:29 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection #rhrt: 09/10/08 10:50 we might want to look into getting this license: http://www.cadsoft.de/nonprofit.htm #rhrt: 09/10/08 11:00 also, it would kind of be nice to have X on rt-black. i just installed eagle on it (so people who don't have it could ssh in) and it's failing to start with "eagle: cannot open display" #rhrt: 09/10/08 11:03 why is there stil l so much whitespace on the wiki? jboticsource: 09/10/08 11:05 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 09/10/08 11:53 tommost_aorist: yes andy753421: 09/10/08 11:53 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/10/08 12:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/10/08 12:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/10/08 13:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/10/08 13:31 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/10/08 14:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/10/08 14:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/10/08 14:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/10/08 14:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/10/08 14:59 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 09/10/08 15:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/10/08 15:35 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/10/08 15:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:10 andy753421: did you turn in the key form? #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:12 yea tommost: 09/10/08 16:15 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." TheBrickWahl1: 09/10/08 16:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/10/08 16:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:28 I move that we move next week's administrative meeting up to 7:00 so that I can go see fiddlers. #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:28 i move that we not mess with the time of the first meeting #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:29 auchter: I move that you take minutes, because I will be sitting in Hatfield Hall. #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:31 meh, i actually don't strongly care either way, i just think we should try to be consistent about meeting times #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:31 Well, either case it will be a change from 8:00. #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:31 I agree with auchter about meeting times #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:32 Other people will probably want to go to the fiddlers too—TheBrickWahl does. #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:32 tommost: one of us will take minutes for you TheBrickWahl: 09/10/08 16:34 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:40 tommost: wrong channel #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:41 (16:40:41) tommost: Tuesday at 7:30 also conflicts with the Ballet on Jan 13. #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:41 i really dont want to move meeting times for ballet #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:42 what's wrong with ballet? i'm thinking you've never heard the rite of spring. #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:42 i assume you just looked up every possible conflict that's on the calendar, and if tonight and a ballet are the only ones i don't think that's to bad #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:42 jboticsource-- #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:43 We can move them now so that it doesn't come as a surprise. TheBrickWahl: 09/10/08 16:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:50 jboticsource: i'm sitting about 4 ft away from your favorite persno #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:51 Padgett? #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:52 auchter , who? #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:54 tom guessed it #rhrt: 09/10/08 16:56 wonderfull.... TheBrickWahl1: 09/10/08 17:05 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/10/08 19:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/10/08 19:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/10/08 19:52 is there actually a hardware meeting going on tonight, or are those starting next week? #rhrt: 09/10/08 20:11 the meeting is starting this sunday #rhrt: 09/10/08 20:12 i put down wednessdayas too cuz there will be ones in teh future #rhrt: 09/10/08 20:13 ok, i was just wondering as i wanted to get into the lab. looks like i'll wait until 9. #rhrt: 09/10/08 20:16 i just woke up from a nap #rhrt: 09/10/08 20:24 jboticsource: Me too. #rhrt: 09/10/08 20:24 I'm going to send that e-mail now. #rhrt: 09/10/08 20:45 auchter: I'm heading to the lab now. tommost: 09/10/08 20:45 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." #rhrt: 09/10/08 20:55 right as i get to the cs lab... collinjc: 09/10/08 20:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/10/08 21:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/10/08 21:12 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/10/08 21:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/10/08 22:38 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) tommost: 09/11/08 00:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/11/08 00:45 andy753421: I've committed my changes. #rhrt: 09/11/08 00:46 You can't just do an svn switch, unfortunately, since the repository layout has changed somewhat. #rhrt: 09/11/08 00:48 yea, figured that one out #rhrt: 09/11/08 00:48 I think you could do a svn sw --relocate, imediately followed by a normal svn sw #rhrt: 09/11/08 00:49 I just did a fresh checkout and copied my changes over. #rhrt: 09/11/08 00:53 Docs are here: https://rhitrobotics.org/docs/rb/ #rhrt: 09/11/08 00:54 There is a script that regenerates them on every checkin. TheBrickWahl: 09/11/08 01:10 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/11/08 01:45 do we have another recruitement meeting like what we had on last tuesday next tuesday? #rhrt: 09/11/08 01:51 No. #rhrt: 09/11/08 01:52 i thought we had a round 2 on that. do we have one scheduled? #rhrt: 09/11/08 01:52 Not that I'm aware of. #rhrt: 09/11/08 01:52 Why would we have another one? #rhrt: 09/11/08 01:52 for the ppl that missed the one we had #rhrt: 09/11/08 01:53 Oh, yeah. I'll tell them to come to the integration meeting or the one next Tuesday. #rhrt: 09/11/08 01:54 are we m233? #rhrt: 09/11/08 01:54 or m223? #rhrt: 09/11/08 01:54 M233, as it says on the wiki. collinjc: 09/11/08 06:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/11/08 07:20 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Mishtal: 09/11/08 07:21 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/11/08 07:40 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) andy753421: 09/11/08 07:54 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 09/11/08 08:00 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/11/08 09:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/11/08 09:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/11/08 09:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/11/08 09:57 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/11/08 10:38 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/11/08 10:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/11/08 10:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/11/08 11:05 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Mishtal: 09/11/08 11:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/11/08 11:11 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/11/08 11:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal1: 09/11/08 11:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal1: 09/11/08 11:47 >< QUIT : Client Quit TheBrickWahl: 09/11/08 11:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/11/08 11:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/11/08 11:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/11/08 12:02 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/11/08 12:04 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/11/08 12:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/11/08 12:17 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 09/11/08 12:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/11/08 12:33 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 09/11/08 12:50 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/11/08 13:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/11/08 13:28 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/11/08 13:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/11/08 13:34 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/11/08 14:16 anyone want to let me in the lab? collinjc: 09/11/08 14:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/11/08 14:21 You should just go ahead and get the paperwork done. #rhrt: 09/11/08 14:22 it was submitted yesterday, they haven't added my pass yet apparently #rhrt: 09/11/08 14:23 Go to the graduate office to get the paperwork and take it to Tom Miller to get signed, and then take it back to the graduate studies lady. #rhrt: 09/11/08 14:23 Oh. collinjc: 09/11/08 14:23 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/11/08 15:25 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/11/08 15:31 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource: 09/11/08 15:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/11/08 15:46 ``You have been added to GROUP-LOCK-M233 (RDEF#4233) by Teresa Gosnell.'' #rhrt: 09/11/08 15:46 yaya jboticsourc1: 09/11/08 15:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/11/08 15:50 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) tommost: 09/11/08 15:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 09/11/08 16:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl2: 09/11/08 16:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/11/08 17:01 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl1: 09/11/08 17:04 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) DesudEsudeSudesU: 09/11/08 17:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/11/08 17:25 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsourc1: 09/11/08 17:36 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/11/08 18:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt DesudEsudeSudes1: 09/11/08 18:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/11/08 18:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt DesudEsudeSudesU: 09/11/08 18:14 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/11/08 18:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/11/08 18:36 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/11/08 19:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt Nakata: 09/11/08 19:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt Nakata: 09/11/08 19:31 >< PART #rhrt : DesudEsudeSudesU: 09/11/08 19:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/11/08 19:58 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 09/11/08 20:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt DesudEsudeSudes1: 09/11/08 20:16 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/11/08 20:19 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/11/08 20:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/11/08 20:38 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/11/08 20:44 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 09/11/08 20:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/11/08 20:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/11/08 20:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/11/08 21:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt Skneter: 09/11/08 21:26 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) andy753421: 09/11/08 22:34 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/11/08 22:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/11/08 23:00 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Skneter: 09/12/08 00:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt PhantmLdr: 09/12/08 00:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt Skneter: 09/12/08 00:54 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) TheBrickWahl2: 09/12/08 01:15 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/12/08 01:53 >< PART #rhrt : DesudEsudeSudesU: 09/12/08 02:41 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 09/12/08 04:24 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc: 09/12/08 07:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/12/08 07:29 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/12/08 07:56 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/12/08 08:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/12/08 08:54 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/12/08 08:54 >< QUIT : Read error: 113 (No route to host) Mishtal: 09/12/08 09:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/12/08 09:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/12/08 09:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/12/08 10:04 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal: 09/12/08 10:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/12/08 10:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/12/08 11:20 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 09/12/08 11:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal1: 09/12/08 11:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal1: 09/12/08 11:44 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal1: 09/12/08 11:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/12/08 11:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/12/08 11:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/12/08 12:00 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/12/08 12:08 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/12/08 12:08 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/12/08 12:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/12/08 12:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/12/08 13:03 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal1: 09/12/08 13:30 >< QUIT : "Leaving." DesudEsudeSudesU: 09/12/08 13:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/12/08 14:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/12/08 14:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt DesudEsudeSudesU: 09/12/08 14:45 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/12/08 14:52 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/12/08 15:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt ncw000: 09/12/08 15:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt ncw000: 09/12/08 15:09 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 09/12/08 15:14 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) tommost: 09/12/08 16:19 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." DesudEsudeSudesU: 09/12/08 16:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/12/08 16:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/12/08 17:04 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/12/08 17:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt DesudEsudeSudes1: 09/12/08 18:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/12/08 18:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt DesudEsudeSudesU: 09/12/08 18:34 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/12/08 18:36 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/12/08 19:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/12/08 19:27 >< QUIT : "Leaving." DesudEsudeSudes1: 09/12/08 20:13 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Mishtal: 09/12/08 20:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/12/08 21:53 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/12/08 21:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/12/08 22:09 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/12/08 22:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/12/08 22:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/12/08 23:36 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Mishtal: 09/13/08 01:22 >< PART #rhrt : "Leaving." jboticsourc1: 09/13/08 03:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/13/08 03:33 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) shadghost: 09/13/08 10:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/13/08 13:05 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." DesudEsudeSudesU: 09/13/08 13:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/13/08 13:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/13/08 15:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/13/08 16:15 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:08 the mechanical team has some ideas #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:11 a frightening thought #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:11 but go ahead... #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:11 we decided to go with a four wheel drive tank steer #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:12 it is cost effective #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:12 and fairly easy to implement #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:12 the 4 wheel drive will also allow us to piviot around our axial center #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:12 which is good for the software team #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:13 how well will that work on grass, though? #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:13 4 wheel drive will be awesome on grass #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:13 which was one of the reasons why it won #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:13 we also talked about doing treads #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:13 but decided against them for cost, complexity, and relyabilty reasons #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:14 one of the wackier ideas was using a hovercraft #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:15 we decided against that as it is hard to control #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:15 any reason for preferring 4 wheel to 6 wheel drive? #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:15 cost #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:15 less gears and wheels #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:15 but we could theoredicly do 6 wheel #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:15 or N wheel at that #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:16 well, 6 wheel makes it significantly easier to turn if you lower the center wheels slightly #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:17 i am pretty sure that on grass that it will be a non issue #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:17 but if you really want we can have 6 #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:17 also less sinking into the ground after rain with 6 #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:17 no, i don't want it, i was just interested in discussing #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:18 the way we are thinking about setting up the wheels would be easy to include additional wheels #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:18 basicly, there are 2 shafts that run down the sides of the robot #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:18 each shaft has a helical gear on it #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:18 will we actually have suspension this year? #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:19 attached to that helical gear is a regular spur type gear #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:19 ont eh spur gear is a shaft that transfers torque to the weels #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:20 so basicly, if you want 6 wheels we just put more helical gears etc on #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:20 we did not discuss suspensions #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:20 at the meeting #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:20 i would like one #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:21 but we may not have all the money this year for one, But we can prob build the robot so that it is really easy to add one #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:23 teh mech team wants to buid a square #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:23 not an octogan #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:24 but a true square #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:31 http://fafnir.rose-hulman.edu/~kinziejh/IMG00057.JPG #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:31 that is a crappy illustration of the drive train #rhrt: 09/13/08 18:58 since no one is talking to me, i am going to go take a nap. I will be back after my nap. I will update teh mech wiki when i wake up DesudEsudeSudesU: 09/13/08 19:09 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) kleinjt: 09/13/08 19:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_aorist: 09/13/08 19:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost_aorist: 09/13/08 19:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/13/08 19:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_aorist: 09/13/08 20:33 >< QUIT : "Leaving." DesudEsudeSudesU: 09/13/08 20:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/13/08 20:58 Do my mailing list e-mails show up as signed to people using GPG? #rhrt: 09/13/08 20:59 I'm seeing the signature attachment, but not any indication of pass/fail status. #rhrt: 09/13/08 21:00 Dang it, I just realized that I forgot the location on that. #rhrt: 09/13/08 21:52 Talkative today, aren't we. kleinjt: 09/13/08 22:18 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) #rhrt: 09/13/08 22:25 back PhantmLdr: 09/13/08 23:01 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) TheBrickWahl: 09/13/08 23:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/14/08 01:26 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/14/08 01:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/14/08 02:38 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/14/08 03:05 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/14/08 03:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsourc1: 09/14/08 03:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." DesudEsudeSudesU: 09/14/08 03:14 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/14/08 03:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/14/08 06:37 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/14/08 06:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/14/08 06:37 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/14/08 06:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/14/08 06:44 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/14/08 07:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/14/08 07:52 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/14/08 09:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/14/08 09:32 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/14/08 09:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/14/08 10:15 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 09/14/08 10:22 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 09/14/08 10:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/14/08 11:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 09/14/08 13:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl2: 09/14/08 13:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/14/08 13:29 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl1: 09/14/08 13:34 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Mishtal: 09/14/08 13:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/14/08 13:50 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 09/14/08 14:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/14/08 14:28 >< PART #rhrt : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/14/08 14:50 Time for a meeting! Mishtal: 09/14/08 14:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/14/08 14:53 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." #rhrt: 09/14/08 15:02 andy753421: the meeting is in the robotics team work lab, right? #rhrt: 09/14/08 15:03 It is in M233 #rhrt: 09/14/08 15:03 im assuming that im in the right room, considering the giant amount of people that just showed up jboticsource: 09/14/08 15:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/14/08 15:14 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection #rhrt: 09/14/08 15:34 jdfjldfjl Mishtal1: 09/14/08 15:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/14/08 15:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/14/08 15:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/14/08 15:55 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 09/14/08 16:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/14/08 16:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal1: 09/14/08 16:56 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/14/08 17:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/14/08 17:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/14/08 17:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/14/08 17:17 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/14/08 17:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/14/08 18:05 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/14/08 18:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/14/08 19:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/14/08 19:15 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 09/14/08 19:21 I've changed the e-mail addresses on the wiki to the officers', since the @rhitrobotics.org ones don't work. andy753421: 09/14/08 19:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/14/08 21:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/14/08 21:13 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/14/08 21:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/14/08 21:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/14/08 21:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/14/08 22:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/14/08 22:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/14/08 23:40 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/14/08 23:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/14/08 23:58 kleinjt: i think i'm going to get some ENC28J60 samples to play around with #rhrt: 09/14/08 23:59 we'll need special magjacks too, right? #rhrt: 09/14/08 23:59 yep #rhrt: 09/15/08 00:00 or if we have some old isa network cards anywhere, just scavenge the magnetics and jacks from those #rhrt: 09/15/08 00:01 I have ISA modems and sound cards, if that's remotely relevant. #rhrt: 09/15/08 00:01 i don't think so #rhrt: 09/15/08 00:01 well, I'm going to sleep kleinjt: 09/15/08 00:01 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/15/08 00:02 that was rather abrupt. collinjc: 09/15/08 00:24 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl2: 09/15/08 01:23 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) tommost: 09/15/08 03:25 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." andy753421: 09/15/08 06:47 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/15/08 06:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/15/08 07:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/15/08 07:31 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/15/08 07:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/15/08 07:53 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/15/08 08:07 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 09/15/08 08:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/15/08 08:39 >< QUIT : Client Quit auchter: 09/15/08 08:45 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 09/15/08 08:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/15/08 08:51 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/15/08 09:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/15/08 10:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/15/08 10:40 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/15/08 11:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/15/08 11:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/15/08 12:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/15/08 12:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/15/08 12:33 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/15/08 13:23 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 09/15/08 13:40 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/15/08 14:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/15/08 14:21 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 09/15/08 15:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/15/08 15:56 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/15/08 16:44 gary: "You guys have some serious cleaning up to do." #rhrt: 09/15/08 16:44 "... I'll use a wheelbarrow if I have to." #rhrt: 09/15/08 16:45 ...that was from gary to me a minute ago, if that wasn't clear #rhrt: 09/15/08 16:47 oh, and he put up a nice sign for us, in red: "Robotics North Of This Divider Only" kleinjt: 09/15/08 17:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/15/08 17:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:49 Oh, crap. #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:49 ? #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:50 http://dpaste.com/78276/ #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:50 oh, and that divider? it's the one to the left of where all the computers are #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:50 ie. tom's monitors and such aren't covered #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:51 I figured. #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:51 nor is that table full of stuff across from it #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:51 By when does he want us to do this? #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:51 he didn't say #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:52 i mentioned that we're having a meeting tomorrow night and he grumbled something #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:52 nice of him to be so polite and introduce himself, too #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:52 i'd never talked to him before. #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:52 He seemed niceish enough when I picked up the posters. #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:53 jboticsource: You should pay that bill soon so he doesn't get pissed. #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:53 Is it even possible for us to fit everything into that space? #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:53 tommost: bills will be done soon... #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:53 tommost: if we make use of vertical space, yep #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:53 bills? Do we owe money for the lab space? #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:54 kleinjt: No, other stuff. #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:54 kleinjt: for the poster #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:54 We need to put that cart in storage or something. #rhrt: 09/15/08 17:55 obviously, that's being done wednesday jboticsource: 09/15/08 18:09 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/15/08 18:24 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/15/08 19:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/15/08 19:38 hmm, fun #rhrt: 09/15/08 19:38 anyone up for going over there now and doing some cleaning? #rhrt: 09/15/08 19:38 I could go do a little. kleinjt: 09/15/08 19:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/15/08 19:53 if i'm able to get this homework done within the next few hours i'll do a little cleaning tonight collinjc: 09/15/08 19:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/15/08 20:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:00 I guess I'll come over now and do a little cleaning. jboticsource: 09/15/08 20:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/15/08 20:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/15/08 20:09 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 09/15/08 20:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:13 i'll be over in a few minutes as well Mishtal: 09/15/08 20:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:18 did you guys happen to get my email concerning will, the ventures project manager #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:18 ? #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:18 i did #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:18 i have it open right now #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:18 i was about to deal with it #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:18 kay andy753421: 09/15/08 20:25 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:36 is the conctact us page supposed to look like that? #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:37 what about it? #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:37 is just says half of our email #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:37 like kinziejh@... #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:37 i guess the assumption is at rose-hulman.edu #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:37 is the rest *really* necessary? #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:37 YES #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:38 for other people looking at our page who dont go to rose #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:38 who need to conctact us #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:38 or look up our info #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:38 when in doubt... go with the solution that will cause least future problems... #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:39 fixed. #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:40 the replace thing is shooty #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:40 ``shooty?'' #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:40 just put in our emails #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:40 some of us rather like the minimal amount of spam we get #rhrt: 09/15/08 20:41 crappy, it looks crappy andy753421: 09/15/08 20:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/15/08 20:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/15/08 21:06 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/15/08 21:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/15/08 21:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/15/08 21:44 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:44 jboticsource: Trac does that automatically. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:45 what is trac? #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:46 The program that does the wiki, ticketing, etc. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:46 https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/TracGuide #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:49 also, someone should put the phone number of the lab phone somewhere #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:49 File a ticket. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:50 you're joking, right? #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:50 Nope. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:50 Otherwise I'll forget. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:50 tommost: How do I log in to file tickets? #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:51 There's a web-site component specifically for this. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:51 I'm not away of my password #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:51 Click on "Login" on the left. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:51 s/away/aware #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:51 Did you ever ask me to give you an account? #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:51 not that I can recall #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:51 Okay. Just a sec. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:51 kleinjt33 works, that was my password last year #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:52 That shouldn't work... #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:52 eh? why not? #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:52 Unless you set it to that; I wouldn't have. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:52 ok, I'll set it to that #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:52 Oh. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:52 I didn't set it to that, it was set for me #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:52 I thought that you meant that you'd tried logging in with that and it worked. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:52 well, it worked last year #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:53 We have a totally new setup. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:53 Well, there already was a user for you. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:53 Try logging in now. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:54 awesome. thanks. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:55 ticket filed #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:57 Electronics people, it would be very nice (and look very good) if you put more stuff on the wiki. Like a list of things that need power on a "Power Distribution" page, etc. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:57 tommost: tell the other electronics people that #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:58 auchter: We'll bring it up at the meeting tomorrow night, eh? #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:58 Same goes for you, jboticsource and TheBrickWahl, for proposed chassis designs. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:58 kleinjt: yep. once i finish up my homework i'm going to start drawing out a schematic for tomorrow #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:59 What are your plans for tomorrow? I'll mention them in the e-mail. #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:59 max232, lm7805, atmega168... #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:59 tommost: design a development board for the atmega168 #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:59 avrisp headers are in the sparkfun library, and learning to import libraries might be useful #rhrt: 09/15/08 21:59 Cool. You'll also be "organizing" the lab, BTW. #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:00 tommost: obviously. is the rest of the lab dirty? #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:00 s/rest/non-electronics/ #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:00 kleinjt: yeah, that'd be good. crystals/osillators? #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:00 s/si/sci/ #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:01 The hardware area is moderately tidy. The software area is, as ever, ephemeral. #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:01 We put a bunch of cables in boxes. #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:01 And most of our stuff is now in our area. #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:01 ok, sounds good #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:02 We seriously need a larger lab area. #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:02 a standard sized crystal and a pair of ~22pf caps for it, an a ~10-100uF cap for the whole board and a ~.1uF cap for filtering the input on the atmega would be nice #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:02 kleinjt: Wiki, wiki, wiki! #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:02 kleinjt: don't listen to tom #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:03 If the log worked, we wouldn't need a wiki :P #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:03 It totally works. #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:03 see my ticket, the link to it is borked on my end.. #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:03 SSH into rhitrobotics.org and cat -f /var/lib/irclog/logs/2008-09.log #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:03 Oh, yeah, I don't have it served over HTTP yet. #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:04 That'll have to wait until I un-break the Thorn's site. #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:04 tommost: cat -f? jboticsource: 09/15/08 22:04 >< QUIT : Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:04 Er, tail -f. #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:05 i was seriously hoping that you weren't using an even more perverse version of cat than gnu's #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:05 also, who the hell puts logs in /var/lib? #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:05 Me. #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:06 wrong answer #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:06 There in the same place as trac, svn, etc. #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:06 s/There/They're/ #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:06 that's stupid #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:07 Yeah, it confused me at first too. #rhrt: 09/15/08 22:07 But that's the Debian Way (TM). Mishtal: 09/15/08 22:09 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/15/08 22:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/15/08 22:09 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 09/15/08 23:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/15/08 23:09 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/15/08 23:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:40 since when is the meeting at 7:30? #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:40 Since we decided that it would be at 7:30 two weeks ago? #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:41 oh, right. #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:41 Yeah, so, I won't be there. #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:41 Nor will Brian. #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:42 I may only be able too stay for the first 30 minutes #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:43 either that or I'll miss the first 30 minutes, I forget #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:45 Fiddlers! #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:46 they may be on the room somewhere #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:46 jboticsource: Fail. #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:46 sry, roof #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:47 i'm skeptical of anything involving several amplified violins. #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:48 The string/guitar thing last year was awesome. I'm hoping this lives up to that standard. #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:50 i'm even more skeptical of violinists who jump while playing: http://www.barrage.org/VT_images/vtshow_images/sight_images/5.jpg #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:50 Looks like fun. #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:50 double threat #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:51 Seriously, it's fiddling. The musical standards are not that high. #rhrt: 09/15/08 23:58 Does anyone else here find themselves on the CSSE 120 robotics Angel group all of a sudden? #rhrt: 09/16/08 00:00 I'm not in it, is there anything interesting there? #rhrt: 09/16/08 00:01 Not really. I must be there because I'm a TA for plain 120. andy7534211: 09/16/08 00:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/16/08 00:21 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/16/08 00:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/16/08 00:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy7534211: 09/16/08 00:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/16/08 01:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/16/08 01:57 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 09/16/08 02:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/16/08 02:39 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl1: 09/16/08 03:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 09/16/08 03:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/16/08 03:43 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/16/08 03:43 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/16/08 06:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/16/08 07:30 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/16/08 07:56 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/16/08 08:12 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl1: 09/16/08 08:16 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 09/16/08 08:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/16/08 08:50 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource1: 09/16/08 09:11 >< PART #rhrt : auchter: 09/16/08 09:11 >< QUIT : card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 09/16/08 09:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/16/08 09:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/16/08 10:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/16/08 10:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/16/08 10:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/16/08 11:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/16/08 11:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/16/08 11:36 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/16/08 11:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/16/08 11:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/16/08 12:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/16/08 12:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/16/08 12:32 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/16/08 12:34 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 09/16/08 12:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/16/08 12:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/16/08 12:51 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 09/16/08 12:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/16/08 13:12 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) collinjc: 09/16/08 13:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/16/08 13:47 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 09/16/08 14:24 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) tommost: 09/16/08 16:15 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 09/16/08 16:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/16/08 16:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/16/08 16:59 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 09/16/08 17:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/16/08 17:57 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 09/16/08 18:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/16/08 19:20 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/16/08 19:22 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/16/08 19:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/16/08 19:23 >< QUIT : Client Quit rhrtlog3145: 09/17/08 00:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt rhrtlog: 09/17/08 00:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/17/08 00:54 Test. TheBrickWahl: 09/17/08 00:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/17/08 01:09 tommost: yes, i moved the computers and UPS's around #rhrt: 09/17/08 01:09 to free up some more space, since we only have one running over there at the moment #rhrt: 09/17/08 01:09 I should set up a cron job to maintain rhrtlog; it's currently running in a manually-started screen session. #rhrt: 09/17/08 01:10 tommost: `crontab -e' then add the line `@reboot screen -d -m /home/lug/htdocs/irc/luglog.sh' #rhrt: 09/17/08 01:11 well, except not for luglog #rhrt: 09/17/08 01:12 Thanks. However, it also seems to be unwilling to autojoin. I've had to send ":j #rhrt" to it via its control socket. #rhrt: 09/17/08 01:13 yea, that's because freenode change their servers #rhrt: 09/17/08 01:14 http://www1.lug.rose-hulman.edu/irc/luglog.sh has updated code #rhrt: 09/17/08 01:14 Okay. I'll get around to that sometime. #rhrt: 09/17/08 01:14 I definitely don't have time now. tommost: 09/17/08 01:26 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 09/17/08 01:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 09/17/08 01:26 >< NICK : tommost tommost: 09/17/08 01:27 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 09/17/08 01:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 09/17/08 01:27 >< NICK : tommost tommost: 09/17/08 01:27 >< QUIT : Client Quit tommost: 09/17/08 01:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/17/08 02:12 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." kleinjt: 09/17/08 07:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/17/08 07:24 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 09/17/08 09:14 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/17/08 09:32 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/17/08 09:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/17/08 09:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/17/08 09:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/17/08 10:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/17/08 10:06 just sent the email to the guy at ventures that is intrested in us andy753421: 09/17/08 10:14 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/17/08 10:28 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 09/17/08 10:37 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/17/08 10:44 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/17/08 10:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/17/08 10:51 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 09/17/08 12:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/17/08 12:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/17/08 13:03 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/17/08 13:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/17/08 13:18 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 09/17/08 13:19 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/17/08 13:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/17/08 13:27 >< QUIT : Client Quit kleinjt: 09/17/08 14:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/17/08 14:06 http://www.rose-hulman.edu/math/facilities.php <-- rose-hulman aerial robotics team is mentioned on this page kleinjt: 09/17/08 14:07 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 09/17/08 14:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/17/08 14:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/17/08 15:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/17/08 15:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/17/08 16:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/17/08 16:14 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/17/08 16:17 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." kleinjt: 09/17/08 16:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/17/08 16:24 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 09/17/08 16:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/17/08 16:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/17/08 17:02 the guy who is intrested in us from ventures will stop by this sunday andy753421: 09/17/08 17:40 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/17/08 17:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/17/08 18:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/17/08 18:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/17/08 18:48 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/17/08 18:48 andy753421: What are your plans for tonight's meeting? #rhrt: 09/17/08 18:48 I'm sending out an e-mail. #rhrt: 09/17/08 18:49 start working on code, us - vision code, you - control code jboticsource: 09/17/08 18:51 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/17/08 18:51 Hmm... I don't seem to be able to send e-mails. #rhrt: 09/17/08 18:51 Thunderbird says something about STARTTLS not working. tommost: 09/17/08 18:54 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 09/17/08 18:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/17/08 18:57 down for me too #rhrt: 09/17/08 18:58 I can send through Outlook & Exchange. jboticsource: 09/17/08 19:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/17/08 19:20 tommost: i borrowed a yellow ethernet cable from your room. i am in the sudy room on your floor. thanks collinjc: 09/17/08 19:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/17/08 19:42 jboticsource: That cable is the robotics team's. It was in a pile of stuff to be returned to the lab. #rhrt: 09/17/08 19:42 ok jboticsource: 09/17/08 20:03 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/17/08 20:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/17/08 20:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/17/08 20:19 Was anyone planning to attend the software meeting tonight @ 20 minutes ago>?\ #rhrt: 09/17/08 20:19 andy753421: tommost #rhrt: 09/17/08 20:19 ? #rhrt: 09/17/08 20:19 The meeting is at 9:00. #rhrt: 09/17/08 20:20 My clock says 8:20 right now. #rhrt: 09/17/08 20:20 right #rhrt: 09/17/08 20:20 my mistake #rhrt: 09/17/08 20:20 see you then Mishtal: 09/17/08 20:21 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/17/08 20:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/17/08 20:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/17/08 21:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/17/08 21:05 tommost: are you coming? tommost: 09/17/08 21:24 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 09/17/08 21:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/17/08 21:53 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource1: 09/17/08 22:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource2: 09/17/08 22:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/17/08 22:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) hunterpk: 09/17/08 22:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 09/17/08 22:21 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/17/08 22:46 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/17/08 23:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt hunterpk: 09/17/08 23:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/17/08 23:14 tommost: how'd you end up sending that message earlier? tommost: 09/17/08 23:20 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 09/17/08 23:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/17/08 23:56 andy753421: How'd things go earlier? #rhrt: 09/17/08 23:58 http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Oakland+University,+Rochester,+MI+48309&sll=42.53335,-83.314819&sspn=0.45892,0.792389&ie=UTF8&ll=42.678683,-83.195225&spn=0.000759,0.002559&t=h&z=19 #rhrt: 09/18/08 00:00 heh, that's pretty cool #rhrt: 09/18/08 00:09 with software meeting earlier? #rhrt: 09/18/08 00:10 tommost: did you get email working again? #rhrt: 09/18/08 00:10 I don't know; I haven't tried. #rhrt: 09/18/08 00:10 alright collinjc: 09/18/08 00:10 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/18/08 00:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/18/08 00:58 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/18/08 01:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/18/08 01:05 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 09/18/08 01:08 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource2: 09/18/08 01:10 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/18/08 01:17 andy753421: I already have a list of dependencies (and Ubuntu packages) on the system overview page: http://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/software/system-overview jboticsource: 09/18/08 01:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/18/08 01:57 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc: 09/18/08 05:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/18/08 06:00 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/18/08 06:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/18/08 06:11 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/18/08 06:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/18/08 07:34 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/18/08 07:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/18/08 07:59 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 09/18/08 07:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/18/08 09:16 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) andy753421: 09/18/08 09:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/18/08 09:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/18/08 10:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/18/08 10:07 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/18/08 10:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/18/08 10:45 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/18/08 10:45 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/18/08 11:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/18/08 11:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/18/08 11:39 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 09/18/08 11:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/18/08 12:34 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/18/08 12:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/18/08 13:07 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/18/08 13:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/18/08 13:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/18/08 13:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/18/08 13:46 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/18/08 13:59 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection TheBrickWahl: 09/18/08 14:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/18/08 14:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/18/08 14:21 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/18/08 14:26 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 09/18/08 14:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/18/08 15:05 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 09/18/08 15:15 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/18/08 16:22 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." kleinjt: 09/18/08 16:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/18/08 16:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/18/08 16:45 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 09/18/08 17:12 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) andy753421: 09/18/08 17:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/18/08 17:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/18/08 17:48 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/18/08 18:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/18/08 18:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/18/08 19:04 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/18/08 19:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/18/08 19:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/18/08 19:38 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/18/08 19:59 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 09/18/08 19:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 09/18/08 19:59 >< NICK : tommost kleinjt: 09/18/08 20:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/18/08 20:32 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 09/18/08 20:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/18/08 22:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/18/08 22:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/18/08 22:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/18/08 23:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/18/08 23:25 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 09/18/08 23:29 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/19/08 00:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/19/08 00:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/19/08 01:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 09/19/08 01:34 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/19/08 01:45 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." andy753421: 09/19/08 03:11 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/19/08 04:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/19/08 07:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/19/08 07:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/19/08 07:40 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/19/08 08:11 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/19/08 08:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/19/08 09:09 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 09/19/08 09:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/19/08 09:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/19/08 10:03 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/19/08 10:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/19/08 10:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/19/08 10:55 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) andy753421: 09/19/08 11:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/19/08 12:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/19/08 12:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/19/08 12:48 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/19/08 12:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/19/08 13:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/19/08 13:11 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/19/08 13:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/19/08 13:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 09/19/08 14:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/19/08 14:09 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/19/08 14:09 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) kleinjt: 09/19/08 14:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 09/19/08 14:18 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/19/08 14:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/19/08 14:48 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/19/08 16:15 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc: 09/19/08 16:26 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/19/08 16:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/19/08 16:29 >< QUIT : Client Quit tommost: 09/19/08 16:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/19/08 16:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/19/08 17:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/19/08 17:47 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 09/19/08 18:20 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl1: 09/19/08 19:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/19/08 19:34 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 09/19/08 20:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/19/08 21:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/19/08 21:46 >< PART #rhrt : shadghost: 09/19/08 22:25 >< NICK : shatly shatly: 09/19/08 22:26 >< NICK : shadghost TheBrickWahl1: 09/20/08 01:14 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/20/08 06:46 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 09/20/08 10:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/20/08 10:47 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl1: 09/20/08 11:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/20/08 14:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/20/08 14:03 >< QUIT : Client Quit jboticsource: 09/20/08 14:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:46 jboticsource: What are you planning on working on today, jboticsource? #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:46 reporting our findings on what we set out to research #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:46 and scavenging stock form teh machine shop #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:47 that we want #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:47 Should I send out a reminder e-mail? #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:48 kinda late lol #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:48 Oh, yeah. #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:48 I'll send one out for tomorrow's meeting. #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:48 ok #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:48 good idea #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:51 Anything we want to mention about tomorrow's meeting? #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:51 oh yes, william from ventures will be there #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:51 so be nice and happy #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:51 What's his last name? #rhrt: 09/20/08 14:51 cuz we want teh cashz #rhrt: 09/20/08 15:02 tommost: can you come open the room please #rhrt: 09/20/08 15:03 Oh, crap. #rhrt: 09/20/08 15:03 lol #rhrt: 09/20/08 15:21 what do you think of buying one of those small cars that like 10 year olds that drive in #rhrt: 09/20/08 15:23 I don't really like it. #rhrt: 09/20/08 15:23 http://www.fisher-price.com/inst_sheets/N8417pr-0920.pdf #rhrt: 09/20/08 15:23 It's like Legos, but without any of the advantages. #rhrt: 09/20/08 15:24 Plus it's not tank drive. #rhrt: 09/20/08 15:24 true #rhrt: 09/20/08 15:24 we may be able to convert it #rhrt: 09/20/08 15:24 and it is pre assembled #rhrt: 09/20/08 15:24 I don't see how. #rhrt: 09/20/08 15:24 fm jboticsource: 09/20/08 15:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/20/08 16:17 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. tommos1: 09/20/08 16:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommos1: 09/20/08 16:17 >< NICK : tommost kleinjt: 09/20/08 16:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/20/08 17:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/20/08 19:23 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 09/20/08 19:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/20/08 19:52 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/20/08 21:21 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 09/20/08 21:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/20/08 21:48 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/20/08 22:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/20/08 23:01 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/20/08 23:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/20/08 23:27 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/21/08 00:00 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc: 09/21/08 00:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 09/21/08 01:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/21/08 02:13 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/21/08 02:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/21/08 02:23 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/21/08 03:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/21/08 09:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/21/08 11:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 09/21/08 11:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/21/08 11:38 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/21/08 11:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/21/08 12:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/21/08 13:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/21/08 14:33 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/21/08 14:46 Meeting time! tommost: 09/21/08 14:46 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." #rhrt: 09/21/08 14:47 GENTLEMAN DEPLOY! jboticsource: 09/21/08 14:47 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 09/21/08 14:56 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 09/21/08 15:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/21/08 15:53 >< QUIT : Client Quit andy753421: 09/21/08 17:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/21/08 17:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/21/08 17:03 >< QUIT : Client Quit andy753421: 09/21/08 17:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/21/08 17:12 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 09/21/08 17:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/21/08 17:14 kleinjt: http://freya.phire.org/files/ #rhrt: 09/21/08 17:14 the four tif files are the scope captures #rhrt: 09/21/08 17:14 01 and 03 are the p16nf06 #rhrt: 09/21/08 17:14 02 and 04 are the irf1405 andy753421: 09/21/08 17:15 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/21/08 17:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/21/08 17:22 auchter: Ok, I'll look at them when I'm not on a 10" monitor. kleinjt: 09/21/08 17:31 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/21/08 17:32 the scope's screen is significantly smaller... tommost: 09/21/08 17:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/21/08 17:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/21/08 17:47 >< QUIT : Client Quit tommost: 09/21/08 17:50 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." shadghos1: 09/21/08 17:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 09/21/08 17:55 >< QUIT : Nick collision from services. shadghos1: 09/21/08 17:56 >< NICK : shadghost andy753421: 09/21/08 18:06 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/21/08 18:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/21/08 18:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/21/08 18:51 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 09/21/08 19:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/21/08 20:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/21/08 21:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/21/08 21:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/21/08 21:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:14 auchter, kleinjt: What's the status of the motor controllers? #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:17 We've desoldered half of the mosfets, and tested some of them. #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:17 The mechanical team showed us some nice looking motors, and we've got some ideas of encoders to go with them #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:17 kleinjt: did you order the parts you need? #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:17 i sent an email about the accessory shaft #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:18 andy753421: Not that I'm aware. #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:18 you should probably do that #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:19 agreed.. #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:20 What are these motors? #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:21 http://www.bodine-electric.com/Asp/ProductGroup.asp?Context=13 #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:21 more specificly #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:21 http://www.bodine-electric.com/Asp/ProductSeries.asp?Context=13&Name=24A-Z%20Series%20Parallel%20Shaft%20DC%20Gearmotor #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:22 jboticsource can probably better explain why these are good motors #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:22 these are gear motors #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:22 they have the gearbox integrated in #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:22 which makes life much easier for every one #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:22 How much do they cost? #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:22 less than the servo motors #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:22 Well, yes. #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:23 we dont know #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:23 alex used them over the summer at 500 bucks a pop #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:23 about #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:23 ‽ #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:23 but they have a minimum order #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:23 and we dont know what that is #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:24 but i aim to find out #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:24 Given that we need min. 6 that sounds terrifically expensive. #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:24 I.e., our entire budget expensive. #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:25 indeed. #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:25 yes, but in comparison to the 800 a pop quickslivers, they are a steal #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:25 also come with the gearbox #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:25 "A steal" is not the term I'd use. #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:25 but we are still short #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:25 we will just have to crush our hopes one step at a time #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:25 i thought they were only around $350 a piece #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:25 they may be #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:26 i could be remembering the worng number #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:26 I remembered ~$350 #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:26 kleinjt: https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/igvc/electronics-order #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:26 Shouldn't that really be in a ticket? #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:27 probably #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:27 i sent an email to boutell about setting up a meeting #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:28 auchter: I added some parts #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:28 jboticsource: You should create a "motors" wiki page. https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/igvc/motors #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:31 kleinjt: we probably have enough caps #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:32 also, specify the type otherwise i'll buy film just to make you mad and me happy #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:33 also, it'd be nice to have an LCR meter... #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:33 auchter: We don't have enough 1uF caps, nor do we have any ~20pF caps #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:33 auchter: As for the type, for ~20pF, good luck finding anything but disc. #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:35 For the 1uF, I don't care as long as it isn't tantalum. Electrolytic is likely cheapest. andy753421: 09/21/08 23:38 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:39 kleinjt: why the tantalum hate? they're smaller and have lower ESR #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:39 (no, not lower eric s. raymond, but less of him is good too) #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:40 I added digikey part numbers to the wiki page for the cap #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:40 s/cap/caps #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:40 auchter ? #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:41 jboticsource? #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:41 auchter: The tantalum hate is for many reasons. First, I don't agree with the ethics of tantalum manufacturing. Second, they are expensive. Third, they tend to explode if you get the polarity wrong. #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:42 kleinjt: is there aerial bear hunting involved? #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:42 auchter: who is eric s. raymond? #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:42 jboticsource: No, that ballot measure failed. #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:43 jboticsource: A crazy, crazy strange man. Incidentally, he's contributing to our robot's software via gpsd. #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:44 what is gpsd? #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:44 gpsd is software created by commies so they can track down an aerially hunt bears #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:44 jboticsource: http://geekz.co.uk #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:49 auchter: http://blogs.exbiblio.com/2006/08/02/cruelty-free-tantalum/ #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:49 does this eric want to make our robot into an aerial bear hunting platform? #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:51 jboticsource: We gave up that project, remember? #rhrt: 09/21/08 23:52 we gave it up yes, but does this eric want to thwart us? #rhrt: 09/22/08 00:06 auchter, kleinjt: Don't you need keyed connectors as well? andy753421: 09/22/08 00:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/22/08 00:15 yeah, the problem is what type #rhrt: 09/22/08 00:15 i guess we could get some of the same type of connectors that case fans use. #rhrt: 09/22/08 00:16 as long as it has .1 inch spacing I'm happy andy753421: 09/22/08 00:28 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/22/08 00:29 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/22/08 00:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/22/08 00:55 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/22/08 00:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 09/22/08 01:04 >< PART #rhrt : shadghost: 09/22/08 01:16 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection shadghost: 09/22/08 01:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/22/08 01:18 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/22/08 01:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/22/08 03:42 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) collinjc: 09/22/08 06:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/22/08 07:18 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/22/08 07:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/22/08 08:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/22/08 08:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/22/08 08:55 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/22/08 08:55 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/22/08 09:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/22/08 09:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/22/08 09:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/22/08 10:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/22/08 10:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/22/08 10:44 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/22/08 10:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/22/08 10:55 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 09/22/08 10:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/22/08 10:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/22/08 10:59 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/22/08 11:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/22/08 11:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/22/08 11:53 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal: 09/22/08 11:57 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 09/22/08 11:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/22/08 12:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/22/08 12:34 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 09/22/08 12:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/22/08 12:42 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/22/08 12:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/22/08 13:25 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/22/08 13:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/22/08 13:56 ok, i've got a question on the IGVC rule #rhrt: 09/22/08 13:56 s/$/s/ #rhrt: 09/22/08 13:56 for the navigation challenge, what forms of communication are you allowed to have with your robot? #rhrt: 09/22/08 13:57 for differential gps (RTK) to work, we need some way of communicating data between the base GPS station and the robot's GPS #rhrt: 09/22/08 13:58 You could check the reports on the web site. If other teams have used RTK it must be permitted. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:00 ok, i'll look into it some more. another question, are we concentrating more on the autonomous challenge or the navigation challenge? or are we trying for both? #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:00 I'd prefer the autonomous challenge. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:00 Qualification is most similar to the autonomous challenge. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:00 But we are trying for both, last I heard. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:03 And we need GPS for JAUS. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:03 oh, we're doing JAUS? #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:14 Certainly. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:15 I implemented most of it at the competition last year. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:15 It's terribly easy to implement since it's such a tiny subset. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:19 oh, cool collinjc: 09/22/08 14:20 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:22 They do seem to expand it each year, though, so as soon as they release the new rules I'll need to do some work on it. jboticsource: 09/22/08 14:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:23 It also needs testing. They provide a terrible Java program for doing that, though I haven't been able to get it to work. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:23 jboticsource: have you finalized the motor choice? #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:24 i know what motors i want #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:24 link? #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:24 i am working on the getting them part #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:25 btw i check up on teh accessory shaft #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:25 it is what we think it is #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:25 ok. do you have a general link to a datasheet on them? #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:26 http://www.bodine-electric.com/Products/Asp/ProductSpecs.asp?Context=13&Name=24A-Z%20Series%20Parallel%20Shaft%20DC%20Gearmotor&Model=N4963 #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:26 erm, 14RPM? #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:27 For steering, then? #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:28 for moving #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:28 14 rpm at about 3 feet per revolution #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:28 so that is about 42 feet per minuite #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:29 that seems entirely too slow. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:29 Those are large wheels. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:29 10 inch in diameter #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:29 or 12 #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:29 6 inch ground clearence #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:29 it is a reasonable wheel #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:30 you do know the course is between 700 and 800 feet long, right? #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:30 it is about half a mile an hour #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:30 hmm #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:30 ok we can go faster #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:30 Yes. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:31 significantly faster. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:31 if would take 20 minutes to do the course with those motors. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:31 Although the software would be really easy... ;) #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:31 and it needs to be ablet to do it in 5 minutes #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:31 is that an offical time limit? #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:32 It doesn't matter. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:32 The competition goes faster that 1/2 mph. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:34 this one will do 4.7 mph #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:34 http://www.bodine-electric.com/Products/Asp/ProductSpecs.asp?Context=13&Name=24A-Z%20Series%20Parallel%20Shaft%20DC%20Gearmotor&Model=N4963 #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:34 assuming 12in wheels #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:35 ok, that's a significantly better number. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:35 how about in terms of acceleration, will it be able to reach max speed in a short amount of time? #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:35 very #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:35 I'm assuming that RPM is with no load #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:35 yes #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:36 yes, that is an issue as well. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:36 we will have 4 or 6 of them #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:36 we probably want something that is theoretically capable of at least 6mph #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:36 and they have more torque than our current motors #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:36 MORE TORQUE #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:36 !!!! #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:36 you're not convincing me, jay. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:36 [tim allen voice] #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:37 I am not amused. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:37 just a sec #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:38 it's easier to slow the robot down with software than to make the motors spin faster than they're designed to #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:38 TheBrickWahl++ #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:38 Someone should check the rules about minimum speed. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:39 tommost: not even needed, if you have no hope of completing the course in the required time, you have no chance at all #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:39 Er, I mean maximum. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:39 tommost: 5MPH #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:39 No, I meant for how it needs to be limited. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:40 ok, so our current motors have 350 oz in of torque #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:40 the 139 rpm model has 336 #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:40 oz in of torque #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:40 tommost: software limiting is acceptable #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:40 multiplied by 4 or 6 times #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:41 the next design will have 1344 oz inches of toque total #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:41 from the IGVC rules: All vehicles must be hardware governed not to exceed this maximum speed. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:41 as opposed to our current 700 #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:41 TheBrickWahl: lies #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:42 although I'm not sure how they determine that #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:42 in the 6 wheel design, we would have 2016 oz in in comparision to this years 700 #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:42 what the hell do they mean by "hardware governed" #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:43 I though they told you to run it at max speed and just timed it over a distance, in which case they'd never know if the hardware is capable of going faster #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:43 the only sane way to do it is in software, by *gasp* actually measuring how fast the robot is moving #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:43 I remember some team last year implementing it in their motor controllers at an electrical level; I can't remember what came of that. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:43 4 or 6 of those motors will give us much more torque than what we have this year #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:44 jboticsource: We're not talking about torque. We're talking about speed. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:44 by over 3 times in the 4 wheeled model #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:44 jboticsource: We don't care at the moment. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:44 Can the robot move? Okay, good enough. Morasique: 09/22/08 14:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:44 tommost-- Morasique: 09/22/08 14:44 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:45 but my point is that the robot will not be able to sink all that torque so ti will remain close teh the theoredical 4.7mph #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:45 and get there quickly #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:45 jboticsource: my point is that comparisons to the current robot are pointless #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:45 Yeah. We don't even know how well the current design performs since it *STILL DOESN'T MOVE*! #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:46 on paper, the drive train should do 5 mph. shipley chose the gear ratios and such. but running the robot would be nice #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:48 ACTION hugs everyone #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:49 jboticsource: what shipley and conrad and alex did was fill a white board with calculations without getting anywhere #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:49 then they decided they knew the FIRST motors would work, and bought them #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:50 i am actually cruching some numbers at the moment #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:51 i am going to assume a 200 lb robot #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:52 Someone should e-mail the IGVC folks asking about what "hardware limited" means. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:52 It would really make the most sense to do this in the motor controllers. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:53 indeed, as the motor controllers will have encoders attached to them #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:53 with a 4 wheel design that weighs 200 pounds, the robot should accelerate roughly .62 m/s^2 #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:54 jboticsource: do you know how to account for the reduced speed with a load? I have no idea, but I think it'll be pretty significant #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:54 i calculated the force that the motor applies to teh ground. given that force and the mass of the bot, i go the acceleration #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:55 s/go/got #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:55 i don't think that's the correct way of doing that. #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:56 why not? #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:56 the motors should be roughly constant torque WRT rpm #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:57 to find the top speed, we'll need to know all the friction forces, otherwise it would just accelerate indefinitely #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:57 i got to go #rhrt: 09/22/08 14:57 later jboticsource: 09/22/08 14:57 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/22/08 14:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/22/08 15:00 kleinjt: did you ever take a look at those scope captures? #rhrt: 09/22/08 15:01 auchter: No, I didn't get home until after i'd forgotton about them #rhrt: 09/22/08 15:01 Are you guys doing Eagle training today? #rhrt: 09/22/08 15:01 tommost: tomorrow. #rhrt: 09/22/08 15:02 Oh, yeah. I keep thinking it's Tuesday. #rhrt: 09/22/08 15:02 i've got to get to class, i'll be back on in a bit #rhrt: 09/22/08 15:03 auchter: Ok, uh.. I looked at them. What was I supposed to see? kleinjt: 09/22/08 15:07 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/22/08 15:22 i probably should have said that #rhrt: 09/22/08 15:22 channel 1 is the gate voltage, channel 2 is the source-drain voltage #rhrt: 09/22/08 15:22 01 and 03 are the p16nf06, 02 and 04 are the irf1405 #rhrt: 09/22/08 15:22 and since our logs suck, you probably won't see this jboticsource: 09/22/08 15:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/22/08 15:30 back jboticsource: 09/22/08 16:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/22/08 16:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/22/08 16:35 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal: 09/22/08 17:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/22/08 17:38 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal: 09/22/08 17:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/22/08 18:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/22/08 18:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt Skneter: 09/22/08 18:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/22/08 18:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/22/08 19:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/22/08 19:24 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 09/22/08 19:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:27 kleinjt: http://rafb.net/p/BHyfNL78.html #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:38 auchter: I like the waveform of the p16nf06 more, but I don't know enough about mosfets to really know what I'm looking at #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:38 It looks like the irf510 can't even handle the rise/fall times of 100kHz, which may be scary #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:39 nor do i, but the waveform of the irf1405 worries me. the proper way to be testing mosfets is on a curve tracer #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:39 well, 100kHz is an extreme case, but 16kHz is more realistic #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:39 er.. right. s/510/1405 #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:39 i'm worried about the fact that the gate voltage is messed wierd with the 1405. #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:39 and i'm wondering if that has some effect on the HIP4081 #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:41 yes, that is possible #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:41 i certainly don't like the rise time of the 1405, but i think the fall time is much more critical #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:42 we could test the hip4081 driving an LED, though I'm not sure if it would perform differently under load or something. #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:43 the HIP4081 has those weird sense lines though #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:43 i'm going to throw in 16 p16nf06 onto the digikey order, they're not very expensive and it's worth a try #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:46 sounds good, should we socket the transistors too?... #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:46 regardless, we should get some decent mill-max sockets. #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:49 4 of ED7064-ND ? #rhrt: 09/22/08 19:55 ok Mishtal: 09/22/08 20:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 09/22/08 20:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/22/08 20:48 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 09/22/08 21:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 09/22/08 21:51 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 09/22/08 22:20 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/22/08 22:22 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/22/08 22:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/22/08 22:41 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal: 09/22/08 22:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/22/08 23:29 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/22/08 23:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/22/08 23:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/22/08 23:52 I may not make it to the start/the whole robotics meeting. Skneter: 09/22/08 23:52 >< QUIT : #rhrt: 09/22/08 23:53 I've got some free time before it, auchter, is there anything that you need done for before the meeting? #rhrt: 09/22/08 23:53 s/for// #rhrt: 09/23/08 00:05 kleinjt: desolder mosfets if you'd like #rhrt: 09/23/08 00:07 auchter: ok, I'll desolder them all before the meeting kleinjt: 09/23/08 00:07 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 09/23/08 00:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/23/08 00:23 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource1: 09/23/08 01:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/23/08 02:05 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/23/08 02:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/23/08 03:24 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." collinjc: 09/23/08 07:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/23/08 07:28 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/23/08 07:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/23/08 07:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/23/08 08:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/23/08 08:35 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) andy753421: 09/23/08 08:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." rhrtlog: 09/23/08 23:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/23/08 23:22 I wonder what happened there. #rhrt: 09/23/08 23:22 ok, order placed #rhrt: 09/23/08 23:22 Awesome. rhrtlog: 09/24/08 09:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/24/08 09:49 Test. rhrtlog: 09/24/08 09:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/24/08 09:49 Test. #rhrt: 09/24/08 09:50 Okay, now that's working again. jboticsource: 09/24/08 10:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/24/08 10:32 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." TheBrickWahl: 09/24/08 10:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/24/08 10:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/24/08 10:58 kleinjt: i missed something last night when i was looking at the datasheet #rhrt: 09/24/08 10:58 kleinjt: eh? #rhrt: 09/24/08 10:59 the high side mosfet on page 19 is a mosfet with a built in current sensor #rhrt: 09/24/08 10:59 Q3 that is #rhrt: 09/24/08 10:59 yep #rhrt: 09/24/08 11:00 I thought we just weren't current sensing, so I didn't mention it #rhrt: 09/24/08 11:00 er.. I'm in class, I should leave kleinjt: 09/24/08 11:00 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 09/24/08 11:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/24/08 12:34 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 09/24/08 12:50 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/24/08 12:50 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/24/08 13:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/24/08 13:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/24/08 13:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/24/08 13:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/24/08 13:51 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/24/08 15:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/24/08 15:21 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/24/08 15:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/24/08 15:53 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/24/08 16:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/24/08 16:16 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/24/08 16:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/24/08 16:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/24/08 16:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/24/08 17:10 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/24/08 17:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 09/24/08 17:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 09/24/08 17:31 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/24/08 17:41 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Skneter: 09/24/08 18:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/24/08 18:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/24/08 18:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt Skneter: 09/24/08 19:17 >< QUIT : jboticsource: 09/24/08 19:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/24/08 19:19 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/24/08 19:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/24/08 19:44 auchter: can we have the robot moving by Oct 3rd? #rhrt: 09/24/08 19:47 we can push #rhrt: 09/24/08 19:59 andy753421: digikey package will be here early next week, which has the mosfets and replacement HIP4081a's. we'll get the boards all ready this sunday (one board should be completely working) then it should just be a matter of soldering the other mosfets on. #rhrt: 09/24/08 19:59 so, yes #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:02 ok, i'm going to be holding you to that #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:02 I wan't something moving around for the homecoming tent thing #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:02 sounds good #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:03 you'll have to hold jon to that, too. he's the one who did the controls for the current controllers, so he'll have to get those boards working #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:04 well, you're head of electronics so it's your responsibility #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:05 good point #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:05 auchter: I've lost the code that we used last year. could you send me the code with the PWM setup? #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:05 from what I remember of it, it deserved a rewrite #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:06 er.. my code, I don't know about your pwm code #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:06 also, if we're going to program microcontrollers, we need a working programmer #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:07 we've got the avrisp coming to us in the digikey order #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:08 I've got an avrisp on my floor somewhere, but we don't have any devboards that accept the isp connector. We may need to make one on protoboard #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:08 why not just leave the arduino bootloader on and just use that #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:09 nevermind, the arduino boards take the avrisp connector #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:09 unless you are volunteering your arduino, I don #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:10 er.. I don't know if any of the robotics atmegas have the bootloader on them #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:10 s/arduino/atega #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:10 s/atega/atmega ... andy753421: 09/24/08 20:10 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:12 kleinjt: http://freya.phire.org/files/pwmtest.tar #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:14 that's just what i've been using to test the motor controllers #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:14 looks good, now I won't have to setup all the pwm registers #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:16 I'll be in the lab friday night and on campus saturday for a comp arch meeting, so I'll be in the lab working those times. Until then, I've got con aps and comp arch homework.. #rhrt: 09/24/08 20:17 ok, i'll likely be there saturday sometime andy753421: 09/24/08 20:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/24/08 20:58 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/24/08 21:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/24/08 21:05 robotics? #rhrt: 09/24/08 21:05 (@ tommost) TheBrickWahl: 09/24/08 21:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/24/08 21:23 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/24/08 21:40 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/24/08 21:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/24/08 22:06 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:44 Oh, er, dang it. I was asleep. #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:46 alright, you've got a couple more people to work with :) #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:47 we had 10 people show of for the software meeting today #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:47 Ah, good. #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:47 I've been assigning people trac tickets, that seems to work pretty good at getting people involved #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:47 Did you do any for my people? #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:47 nope #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:47 What did they do? #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:48 um, a couple of them were working on getting linux set up better #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:48 Ah, good. Not a total waste, then. #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:48 and there were about three new people that haven't shown up before so I did an intro to command line and intro to robotics thing for them #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:48 Okay. #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:50 tommost: while i'm thinking of it, next time you send out an all team email, ask everyone who's on the electronics team to send me an email. #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:52 Yeah, it would be really useful to have a list of people by team. #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:52 We should create a wiki page for this. #rhrt: 09/24/08 22:53 yeah, that's not a bad idea andy753421: 09/24/08 22:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/24/08 23:04 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 09/24/08 23:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/24/08 23:05 https://www.rhitrobotics.org/wiki/membership #rhrt: 09/24/08 23:07 it's probably worthwhile sending out an email requesting people to add themselves #rhrt: 09/24/08 23:07 Yeah, I was just about to. #rhrt: 09/24/08 23:07 additionally, it will weed out those who don't have accounts for some reason #rhrt: 09/24/08 23:08 Yes. Mishtal: 09/24/08 23:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/24/08 23:48 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 09/24/08 23:56 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/25/08 00:09 why don't we just run our own mailing lists? #rhrt: 09/25/08 00:09 that way we could have one for each team, and use it for actual discussion rather than just meeting reminders #rhrt: 09/25/08 00:10 I like this idea. #rhrt: 09/25/08 00:10 I think that that is a good suggestion. Possibly a fourth for admin discussions Mishtal: 09/25/08 00:16 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/25/08 00:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/25/08 00:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/25/08 01:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt TehBam: 09/25/08 01:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt TehBam: 09/25/08 01:08 >< QUIT : "ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.2/2008091620]" TehBam: 09/25/08 01:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/25/08 01:09 TehBam: Welcome! TehBam: 09/25/08 01:10 >< QUIT : Client Quit #rhrt: 09/25/08 01:12 Sorry, my laptop was having external monitor issues. what was the verdict for the mailing lists? #rhrt: 09/25/08 01:15 There wasn't a verdict. TehBam: 09/25/08 01:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/25/08 01:15 TehBam: Connection problems? #rhrt: 09/25/08 01:16 Nope, just trying to get all of my settings straigh #rhrt: 09/25/08 01:16 *straight #rhrt: 09/25/08 01:16 I just finished setting it up so it would autologin each time I started it #rhrt: 09/25/08 01:16 I had to test it a couple of times #rhrt: 09/25/08 01:17 Well, it works, now I should go to bed TehBam: 09/25/08 01:17 >< QUIT : Client Quit jboticsource: 09/25/08 01:39 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) TheBrickWahl: 09/25/08 01:41 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 09/25/08 01:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/25/08 02:25 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/25/08 02:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/25/08 02:45 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/25/08 06:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/25/08 07:34 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/25/08 07:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/25/08 08:00 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource: 09/25/08 08:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt auchter: 09/25/08 08:18 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 09/25/08 08:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/25/08 08:36 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/25/08 08:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/25/08 08:56 >< QUIT : "Leaving." auchter: 09/25/08 09:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/25/08 09:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/25/08 09:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/25/08 09:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/25/08 10:02 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) collinjc: 09/25/08 10:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/25/08 10:31 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/25/08 10:36 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/25/08 10:42 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/25/08 10:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/25/08 11:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/25/08 11:17 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/25/08 11:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/25/08 11:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/25/08 11:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/25/08 11:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/25/08 11:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/25/08 12:33 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/25/08 12:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/25/08 12:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/25/08 12:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/25/08 12:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/25/08 13:01 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/25/08 13:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/25/08 13:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/25/08 13:21 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/25/08 13:30 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/25/08 13:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/25/08 13:36 >< QUIT : Client Quit kleinjt: 09/25/08 13:38 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/25/08 13:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/25/08 13:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/25/08 13:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/25/08 14:17 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/25/08 14:20 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 09/25/08 14:21 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/25/08 14:22 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/25/08 14:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/25/08 14:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/25/08 15:15 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/25/08 15:18 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/25/08 15:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 09/25/08 15:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/25/08 15:51 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource1: 09/25/08 16:56 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/25/08 17:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/25/08 17:25 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/25/08 17:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/25/08 17:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/25/08 17:38 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/25/08 17:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/25/08 17:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/25/08 18:24 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/25/08 18:30 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/25/08 18:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/25/08 18:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/25/08 18:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/25/08 18:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/25/08 18:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/25/08 19:01 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource: 09/25/08 19:21 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/25/08 19:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/25/08 19:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/25/08 20:38 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/25/08 20:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/25/08 21:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/25/08 21:28 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/25/08 21:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/25/08 21:30 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/25/08 21:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/25/08 21:40 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/25/08 21:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/25/08 21:41 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/25/08 21:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/25/08 21:52 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/25/08 22:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/25/08 22:13 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/25/08 22:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/25/08 22:17 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 09/25/08 22:46 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/25/08 23:11 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 09/25/08 23:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/26/08 00:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/26/08 01:29 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/26/08 01:50 auchter, kleinjt: Can you give any prediction as to when the motor controllers will be working? #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:02 tommost: I don't think we've got any new information since that question was last asked #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:02 You ordered parts, right? #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:02 When will they be in? #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:02 tommost: correct #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:02 tommost: Ask auchter, I don't know #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:03 Well, that would help establish a minimum possible time. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:03 We will be working on other motor-controller-related things this weekend/friday #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:03 I'm asking because I want to assign some of the people on path planning who haven't done much/any programming to do more clear-cut things like make the robot move. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:04 And I can't really do that before it can move. ;) #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:05 well, I'll be rewriting the motor controller interface since I lost the source code. so if you want to redo the command scheme I'm open to suggestions #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:06 er.. I lost the source code to compile firmware for the atmegas #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:06 they badly needed a rewrite anyways.. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:09 otherwise I'll just do it from memory. first byte is motor select, second byte is direction, third byte is speed control, forth byte is checksum IIRC #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:09 Something like that, though I suspect that the first two bytes were combined. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:10 I'm entirely open to the application of 9p to this problem, BTW. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:10 motor select and direction? they weren't combined, though they easily could be #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:10 we don't have a working 9p yet, and I'm getting the feeling the motor controllers are a higher priority #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:10 Yeah. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:11 Yes, these ones should just be made to work quickly. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:11 I'll just write up reasonable specifications as I program it, and stick some documentation on the wiki, I plan to work on it friday night #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:11 Well, I don't really care which is which, though it would be easiest to just use the same protocol as before. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:12 There is already Python code to communicate in that protocol; you should be able to go from that. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:12 ok, I'd find this code on svn on the website? #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:13 https://www.rhitrobotics.org/browser/trunk/software/rb/motor/motor_controller.py #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:13 See line 81. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:14 Particularly the write() function. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:14 ok, looks good. I forgot the intuitive directory scheme Mishtal: 09/26/08 02:14 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:17 I don't like the organization for motor controllers, actually. There are several very similar-sounding files in there that all to somewhat similar things. It comes from having two different levels of abstraction in the software. :-/ #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:18 The code in that file simply writes commands directly to the motors, while there's another that takes higher-level commands and does tweening and enforces minimal speeds, etc. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:19 well, I should be able to do that easier on the motor controller. since I'm rewriting the code, I'll look into that :/ #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:19 That would be nice. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:19 Although I think that the tweening should still be done in software. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:20 The dual layers of abstraction are necessary, I think; the issue is that I can't come up with a good name for either one. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:22 If you don't mind, I may make the constants like tweaking motor acceleration enforcement editable over serial. It seems easier than re-flashing every time something is changed. It should. #rhrt: 09/26/08 02:23 Also, question 2.49 on the comp arch homework seems too easy, I think I'm doing it wrong :/ kleinjt: 09/26/08 02:26 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/26/08 04:06 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource1: 09/26/08 06:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 06:25 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) collinjc: 09/26/08 06:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 07:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 09/26/08 07:35 >< QUIT : Connection reset by peer andy753421: 09/26/08 07:52 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/26/08 08:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 08:18 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/26/08 08:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/26/08 08:32 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/26/08 08:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/26/08 09:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 09:26 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Mishtal: 09/26/08 09:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/26/08 09:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/26/08 09:45 kleinjt: parts should be here today #rhrt: 09/26/08 09:47 auchter: mmkay jboticsource: 09/26/08 09:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy7534211: 09/26/08 09:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/26/08 09:56 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 09/26/08 09:57 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource1: 09/26/08 09:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 10:15 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Mishtal: 09/26/08 10:40 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource1: 09/26/08 10:41 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/26/08 10:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy7534211: 09/26/08 10:55 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/26/08 10:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/26/08 11:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/26/08 11:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/26/08 11:31 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/26/08 11:39 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/26/08 11:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 11:50 >< QUIT : Client Quit jboticsource: 09/26/08 11:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/26/08 12:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 12:33 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/26/08 12:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/26/08 12:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/26/08 13:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 13:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 13:36 >< QUIT : Client Quit jboticsource: 09/26/08 13:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 13:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/26/08 14:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/26/08 14:32 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/26/08 14:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/26/08 14:39 jboticsource: where are the motors that aren't on the robot? #rhrt: 09/26/08 14:41 nevermind, i found them jboticsource1: 09/26/08 14:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/26/08 14:47 ok, got one motor controller working fully (both sign magnitude and locked anti-phase (the latter seems to be better.) #rhrt: 09/26/08 14:48 we need to get heatsinks on the mosfets, but it you don't try to stress it too much, it should work fine for next week jboticsource: 09/26/08 14:48 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) andy753421: 09/26/08 15:17 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/26/08 15:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 15:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 16:05 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) jboticsource1: 09/26/08 16:14 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/26/08 16:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 16:19 >< QUIT : Client Quit TheBrickWahl: 09/26/08 16:25 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/26/08 16:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 16:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/26/08 16:50 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/26/08 17:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 17:16 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/26/08 17:18 >< QUIT : Client Quit collinjc: 09/26/08 17:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/26/08 17:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/26/08 18:10 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) collinjc: 09/26/08 18:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/26/08 18:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/26/08 18:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:35 kleinjt: i finished desoldering the mosfets from that one motor controller and soldered the new mosfets #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:35 it works perfectly as far as i can tell #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:36 auchter: really? Awesome. I'm going to start working on programming, and getting basic serial functions set up #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:36 did we have documentation anywhere about which pins on the header had what functions? #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:36 er.. for the microcontroller to drive #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:37 don't spend much time on the code, we're going to need something considerably more complex for this year #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:37 no, i just looked at the schematic #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:37 so, the easiest way is to tie AHI and BHI to ground, they're not needed #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:37 ground DIS #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:38 and PWM ALI and BLI (with BLI getting the exact inverse of ALI) #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:38 and to go backwards? #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:38 if we're still going to just be using 1 avr to control both motor controllers, we might want to use a NOT gate on the BLI so that we only need 2 pwm signals #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:39 50% duty cycle is stationary, 0% is full forward, 100% is full reverse (or reverse those two, it doesn't matter) #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:39 (also, we shouldn't go full 100% or 0%, maybe 95% and 5% would be good enough) #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:40 i left my arduino in the lab if you want to see it in action. #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:40 just plug it into your usb port, turn on the bottom power supply, then turn on the top power supply, set to 12V 3A #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:41 you can turn on the scope to see ALI and BLI #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:41 ok. The atmega has 6 pwm channels, but I'd rather use an inverter to make programming easier #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:41 I was planning on writing semi-easy-to-use functions for serial and pwm, so the code would be a tad reusable #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:42 I need practice anyways #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:42 first I need a nap. uh.. I'll be back in about an hour #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:43 i've got a little serial library that i wrote if you're interested #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:44 I am interested #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:45 If you email it to me, I don't have the key to decode my public key. #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:45 ok. #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:46 kleinjt: http://freya.phire.org/serial.c #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:47 the init is taken from the arduino code, i had a better function written but i seem to have lost that #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:47 i'll fix that in a bit, i'm doing other stuff now though #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:49 also, we should look into interrupt driven serial #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:53 I think I was using interrupt driven serial on the kill switch, but I lost the code. Uh.. I should be able to get that set up again #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:54 You should add a remote control to the kill switch. #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:54 yes, that is the idea #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:55 i wouldn't mind doing the code for that, i just haven't had the chance yt #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:55 also, all the communications libraries should probably implement the same function prototypes for reads and writes #rhrt: 09/26/08 18:56 that way if we decide to move from RS-232 to, oh I2C, it would be an easy switch collinjc_eee: 09/26/08 19:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal1: 09/26/08 19:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 20:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 20:47 >< QUIT : Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/26/08 21:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/26/08 21:17 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/26/08 22:01 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 09/26/08 22:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_eee: 09/26/08 22:25 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection TheBrickWahl: 09/26/08 22:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/26/08 22:53 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 09/26/08 23:05 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/26/08 23:23 speaking of things tommost can do administratively, mailing lists? jboticsource: 09/26/08 23:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/26/08 23:43 auchter: Not tonight. Mishtal1: 09/27/08 02:40 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal1: 09/27/08 02:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/27/08 02:43 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) tommost: 09/27/08 02:50 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/27/08 05:11 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/27/08 05:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/27/08 05:24 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/27/08 06:45 #gi kleinjt: 09/27/08 08:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/27/08 10:02 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/27/08 10:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/27/08 11:28 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/27/08 11:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/27/08 12:09 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/27/08 12:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_eee: 09/27/08 12:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc_eee: 09/27/08 13:06 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/27/08 13:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:10 auchter: Why does your serial program use the ssize_t datatype? #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:10 tommost: When was the meeting? #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:10 Now? #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:10 Or did we move it to 2:00? #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:13 I though we moved it back, I don't mind if it is now though #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:13 meeting? #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:13 Well, I'm just waiting here for people to show up. #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:13 comp arch group meeting #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:13 andy753421: Comparch. #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:13 oh, ok #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:13 tommost, where are you? #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:13 Percopo II study room. #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:13 It's right across from my room, so I don't mind waiting. #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:13 Ok, I'll be there in ~5 minutes kleinjt: 09/27/08 13:14 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 09/27/08 13:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/27/08 13:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/27/08 13:38 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 09/27/08 13:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:49 gah, I just figured out why my serial was acting funny. I had the ckdiv8 fusebit set. #rhrt: 09/27/08 13:49 er.. on the atmega168 collinjc_eee: 09/27/08 13:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/27/08 14:08 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:13 kleinjt: because that' #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:13 s what the gnu libc uses for read and write #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:14 tommost: do i have acess to the room? #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:14 if it's not defined, typedef it to int16_t or something #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:15 jboticsource: Sorry, not yet. #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:15 tommost: dont forget to unlock the door for us! #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:16 Okay. #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:18 auchter: I just switched everything over to uint8_t. I've got eeprom read/write working. #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:19 tommost: i am going to head over #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:19 and prepare #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:19 etc #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:19 Okay. #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:19 be right thar jboticsource: 09/27/08 14:19 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:20 ok, awesome #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:21 maybe next week sometime we should talk about making up libraries (as well as getting a structure set up in the svn repository #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:21 i won't be able to do much at all this week (until thursday), i've got way too much homework #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:22 the max i'll be able to do is get the hardware of the other controller working #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:24 andy753421: I wrote up a Python coding standards page: https://www.rhitrobotics.org/wiki/software/python-standards Any input? #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:26 i was expecting to hate that page, but i don't have any criticism, sadly #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:27 (likely idiotic) question: what's the distinction between methods and functions in python? #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:28 Functions stand alone; methods are defined in a class. At a low level they're the same thing—a "bound method" object is what you call when you call a class instance's method; what it does is fill in the function's first argument with the instance (the self argument). #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:29 ah, ok. #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:29 we should probably mention to use tabs instead of spaces #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:30 I know they teach the 120 people to use 4 spaces for indentation #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:30 Oh, good point. #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:30 maybe something about unnecessarily long lines? #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:30 100 characters or so? #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:31 i mostly like tabs as well, except for the long line problems #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:31 tommost: sounds good #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:31 auchter: :set ts=1 #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:31 no, i meant when you're wrapping a long line to multiple lines, it's sometimes nice to have stuff line up logically #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:31 you can't achieve that with tabs #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:32 auchter: Use the same number of tabs as the previous line and space-pad the rest with characters #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:32 I like to combine them so that the block is indented with tabs but line continuations are done with spaces. #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:32 That way it doesn't break when the tab width is changed. #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:32 ah, good point #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:33 exactly, i wish vim would do that automatically though :/ #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:33 i'm an idiot #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:34 I'm sure you can make it, andy753421. ;) #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:35 actually i consider indentation to be one of the downfalls of vim, it's terribly confusing :( you might be able to use indentexpr but that's pretty complicated #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:45 andy753421: Can you think of any other goals that should be in that section? #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:48 looks pretty good, i'll let you know if I think of anything to add #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:48 the only thing I would say right now is that "easy to read and understand" is pretty vague, although you could write an entire book on that if you wanted to jboticsource: 09/27/08 14:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:51 Yeah, feel free to elaborate if you want to. #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:52 C style guide: read source of gnu cat. read source of plan9 cat. reject the former, imitate the latter ;) #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:53 Yeah, there is a link to a non-existent C style guide on the IGVC page. I was figuring that you'd write that. #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:53 you == andy753421 #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:53 Actually, maybe both of you could write it. It would be good for both teams to use the same guide. razness: 09/27/08 14:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:54 i'm flexible, so whatever andy writes we'll use too #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:54 obviously some things carry over (function naming, global naming, etc.) #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:55 razness: You should add yourself to the membership list: https://www.rhitrobotics.org/wiki/membership razness: 09/27/08 14:55 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:55 i don't like the use of camel case anywhere, though. #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:55 I guess not #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:55 structs i prefer as something_st, typedefs as something_t Jinmo: 09/27/08 14:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:56 Hey, Jinmo. #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:56 hi #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:57 What's up? Is Jay making crazy plans at the meeting? #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:57 not much #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:57 14RPM motors ftw #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:58 i don't use the struct namespace myself, just the typedef namespace as name_t #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:58 crazy plans: they are being made #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:58 andy753421: it really doesn't matter much, as i usually typedef the structs anyway. #rhrt: 09/27/08 14:58 how about: `When in doubt, read linux/Documentation/CodingStyle'? #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:00 that works for me #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:00 we just fixed the chair with the blue tape #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:01 the only thing i'd add (and i guess this is more for the hardware team) is use of stdint.h #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:01 s/hardware/electronics/ #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:03 good point, that's important for us too because of 32 vs. 64 bit machines #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:03 Just C99 in general? #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:03 yea, c99 is nice #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:04 eh, i'm mixed on that. Jinmo: 09/27/08 15:04 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:04 don't like `for(int i = 0; i < n; i++) {' ? #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:04 I think that's the only c99 thing that I do #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:04 i was just going to say that. it does have a rather big advantage #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:04 yeah, as do i. #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:06 `/* for full line comments */' and `// for end of line comments'? #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:06 yep #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:06 also for fun comments like if (this && /*that &&*/ something else) #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:06 muahaha #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:08 perhaps we can shoot people who do that instead? #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:08 also, something i occasionally do which i'm not sure how i feel about (i'm not sure why i do it either) is prefixing ``private'' struct members with _ #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:09 hm.. i've never even considered a struct member to be `private'.. #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:09 i've used it for things like growable arrays, where a _len field indicates the actual allocated length #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:11 i suppose that works, although i think I would just do something like max_size and used_size TheBrickWahl: 09/27/08 15:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:38 How are things going at the hardware meeting? collinjc: 09/27/08 15:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/27/08 15:54 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:59 tommost: i'm afraid to know #rhrt: 09/27/08 15:59 ? #rhrt: 09/27/08 16:01 ...what the hardware team has decided #rhrt: 09/27/08 16:02 ACTION shudders tommost: 09/27/08 16:07 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 09/27/08 16:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/27/08 16:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/27/08 16:45 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/27/08 16:46 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc_eee: 09/27/08 16:53 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 09/27/08 17:04 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 09/27/08 17:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/27/08 17:29 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/27/08 17:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/27/08 17:33 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/27/08 17:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/27/08 17:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/27/08 19:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/27/08 19:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/27/08 19:49 >< QUIT : Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/27/08 19:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/27/08 20:16 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/27/08 20:43 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/27/08 20:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/27/08 20:53 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/27/08 21:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/27/08 21:46 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/27/08 22:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/27/08 23:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/27/08 23:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/27/08 23:26 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/27/08 23:53 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/28/08 00:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 09/28/08 00:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/28/08 02:16 mailing list? #rhrt: 09/28/08 02:19 ... jboticsource: 09/28/08 02:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal1: 09/28/08 03:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/28/08 03:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/28/08 03:50 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/28/08 03:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/28/08 09:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/28/08 09:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/28/08 10:42 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/28/08 12:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/28/08 12:39 I'm starting to bloat the motor controller controller with interrupts to slowly ramp up/down speed. It now compiles to 846 bytes. #rhrt: 09/28/08 12:43 how do you mean? #rhrt: 09/28/08 12:50 I'm programming the motor controller so it won't let you go instantly from full forward to full reverse. I've got an interrupt going off every 16ms which checks the desired pwm frequency against the real pwm frequency. It adjusts the real pwm closer to the desired pwm frequency by a constant held in eeprom. #rhrt: 09/28/08 12:51 that way we maybe won't fry the motor controller as quickly #rhrt: 09/28/08 12:52 ok. i would have just used a loop with _delay_ms ;) #rhrt: 09/28/08 12:53 better idea to use interrupts though collinjc: 09/28/08 12:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/28/08 12:54 mmkay. I'm using the 8 bit timer 0, so you can't have it for pwm #rhrt: 09/28/08 12:55 it looked like you were using timer 1 #rhrt: 09/28/08 12:56 indeed, 16-bit timer's needed for pwm #rhrt: 09/28/08 12:56 s/'// #rhrt: 09/28/08 12:59 should I ramp down to a disable too? #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:00 i suppose so #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:01 :(, ok #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:01 actually, don't #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:01 just bring the DIS pin high #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:02 (and also set both compare registers to TOP>>1) #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:03 eh? #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:03 OCR1A and OCR1B to TOP>>1? #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:04 yes, so when they come out of disable they don't move #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:06 by TOP, do you mean ICR1? #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:07 yes #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:20 can I stick the ternary operator on the left side of an assignment? that would make me happy #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:21 never mind, I found something else to entertain myself with #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:23 no. and now you're scaring me #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:24 don't worry, I skimmed the GNU coding conventions #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:30 try to alternate between the GNU and OpenSSL coding conventions for each function #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:36 but that would require having more than one function TheBrickWahl: 09/28/08 13:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:41 kleinjt: if your function is more than 20 lines, it should be broken up into a few ~7 line macros, each performing an unclear focus with intentionally misleading names #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:44 so far I've kept the macros down to this: http://nopaste.com/p/anLIuXWK7 are te #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:44 s/are te// #rhrt: 09/28/08 13:47 well, the program is up to 906 bytes, I'm taking a break andy753421: 09/28/08 13:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 09/28/08 13:55 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/28/08 13:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/28/08 14:03 do we want to comment functions in the header file or the c file? #rhrt: 09/28/08 14:04 i vote for the header file #rhrt: 09/28/08 14:05 well actually it depends i guess #rhrt: 09/28/08 14:05 for libraries which are going to be reused, the header makes more sense #rhrt: 09/28/08 14:05 for code that won't be referenced anywhere else, in the c file makes more sense #rhrt: 09/28/08 14:06 well if it's not going to be referenced anywhere else it should be static and not included in the header anyway.. #rhrt: 09/28/08 14:07 let's do header comments for how to use function and what they're for, and then C comments for any implementation details #rhrt: 09/28/08 14:07 sounds good tommost: 09/28/08 14:40 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." kleinjt: 09/28/08 14:42 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/28/08 14:43 why can't you cast between types of structs? #rhrt: 09/28/08 14:44 e.g. typdef struct {int a; int b} ab_t; ab_t foo = (ab_t)something_else; kleinjt: 09/28/08 14:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/28/08 14:54 >< PART #rhrt : tommost: 09/28/08 14:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/28/08 14:57 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/28/08 15:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/28/08 15:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal1: 09/28/08 15:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/28/08 15:45 >< QUIT : Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 09/28/08 15:47 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/28/08 15:54 andy753421: im not attending today, if that wasnt already apparent #rhrt: 09/28/08 16:05 alright jboticsource: 09/28/08 16:08 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/28/08 17:00 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/28/08 17:12 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." tommost: 09/28/08 17:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/28/08 17:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/28/08 17:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:02 http://nopaste.com/p/aJxSabRj3 <-- here is the hopefully finished motor controller code. I'll test it on monday #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:09 kleinjt: cool #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:10 does anyone know how far they got on desoldering the mosfets? #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:10 Much of the solder appeared to have been removed when I left. #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:10 Though all of the mosfets were still on there. #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:10 ah, alright. that shouldn't be a problem for me to finish up tuesday #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:14 for consistency's sake, we might want to change pwm_init to set the same behaviour for OC1A and OC1B #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:17 To what extent will this do ramping? #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:17 tommost: what do you mean by extent? #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:18 Well, I have code that does ramping and I'm wondering if it's necessary any more, or if this is just to prevent terrible things from happening if the controller is told to go from -255 to 255 in one go. #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:19 i'd leave it in, it probably won't hurt #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:19 Okay. #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:19 unless kleinjt has a different opinion #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:20 tommost: If the code behaves how it is supposed to, no more ramping on the computer side is needed. I'll test it and make sure it works #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:20 That would simplify things considerably on this side. #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:21 auchter: so, you want TCCR1[A,B] to be loaded with the same value? #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:22 kleinjt: no, that would be bad #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:22 i don't know off the top of my head what needs to be changed in the registers #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:25 ok, then by " for consistency's sake, we might want to change pwm_init to set the same behaviour for OC1A and OC1B" what did you want? #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:29 that OC1[AB] both be high on a match when it's counting up, and cleared when it's counting down #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:29 s/cleared/& on a match/ #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:38 as I see it now, TCCR1A is not frequency and phase corrected. Is this what you wanted? #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:39 the last four bits are zero, which looks to be normal mode #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:43 no, it's phase and frequency correct, mode 8 on page 133 #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:43 WGM13 is in TCCR1B #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:43 (WGM12 as well) #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:44 right, ok #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:45 so, TCCR1A would be 0b10110000, and TCCR1B would be unchanged? right now, I'm imagining using the two channels separately, with an inverter on each one. #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:46 TCCR1A = 0b11110000 #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:47 er. right, I pasted the wrong value #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:47 that is what I calculated too #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:47 mmkay, awesome. #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:49 tommost: It would be pretty easy to change the maximum ramping speed and maximum duty cycle from the computer over serial. Right now they are loaded and could be saved to eeprom. Do you want a way of accessing/changing these? #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:50 kleinjt: i wouldn't add any other features to this controller, since it won't be used for much longer #rhrt: 09/28/08 18:50 auchter: :( kleinjt: 09/28/08 18:54 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) Mishtal1: 09/28/08 18:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/28/08 19:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/28/08 19:26 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/28/08 19:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/28/08 19:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/28/08 20:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/28/08 20:51 andy753421: I've created a very barebones GTK+ keypad GUI and checked it in. #rhrt: 09/28/08 20:52 alright #rhrt: 09/28/08 20:53 keypad gui?? #rhrt: 09/28/08 20:54 It has buttons for forward, stop, reverse, rotate left, and rotate right. It's intended to be used from a touchscreen. #rhrt: 09/28/08 20:54 oh, cool Mishtal: 09/28/08 21:38 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/28/08 21:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/28/08 21:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/28/08 21:58 Could someone with SecureCRT installed verify that these instructions are correct? https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/internal/password-change #rhrt: 09/28/08 21:58 Taking screenshots would be nice, too. #rhrt: 09/28/08 21:58 tommost: I got an email from mellor saying he didn't get a lab for me. You were on the list too :/ #rhrt: 09/28/08 21:59 Oh, yes, I have the same. #rhrt: 09/28/08 21:59 Let me check. #rhrt: 09/28/08 21:59 Crap. #rhrt: 09/28/08 22:00 :/ #rhrt: 09/28/08 22:01 Well, I checked it in. #rhrt: 09/28/08 22:02 I e-mailed him. #rhrt: 09/28/08 22:06 awesome, thanks :) #rhrt: 09/28/08 22:06 Sorry I forgot in the first place. #rhrt: 09/28/08 22:07 np, I forgot to submit it too jboticsource: 09/28/08 22:14 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/28/08 22:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/28/08 22:21 I was looking over the motor controller code, and the comment 'macros for setting bits' could apply to nearly any code at some level :/ #rhrt: 09/28/08 22:21 well, maybe not the macro part #rhrt: 09/28/08 22:22 Isn't everything just a macro for assembly? ;) kleinjt: 09/28/08 23:19 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:28 what do you guys think about asking targus for a dontation? #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:28 Why Targus? #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:29 what is targus? #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:29 they make computer bags #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:29 advertizing computer bags at a place where people all have several computers could be good for them #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:30 heh, i know umich's solar car team is sponsored by targus... #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:31 yes they are.... #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:31 http://www.targus.com/us/ecosmart/initiatives.asp #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:32 their team is smart; they have several business students on it who organize sponsorships and such andy753421: 09/28/08 23:38 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:54 We should have business students... #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:54 jboticsource: Change your major again! #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:56 tommost: i want to get that entrapaneaur minor #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:56 but i dont know if i havae the time #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:58 why did i just get a seemingly random trac ticket? #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:58 Oh, I fixed the title. #rhrt: 09/28/08 23:58 ... andy753421: 09/28/08 23:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/29/08 00:01 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal: 09/29/08 00:04 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 09/29/08 00:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/29/08 00:14 >< QUIT : Client Quit jboticsource: 09/29/08 00:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/29/08 00:20 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 09/29/08 00:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/29/08 00:53 after talking to Will from ventures last week I was thinking that as we plan our design for this year we need to make sure we stay focused on our overall criteria and don't get bogged down in details #rhrt: 09/29/08 00:54 I was thinking we should dedicate a team meeting (maybe Tues.) to talking about what criteria we want to focus on and how each proposed design fits in #rhrt: 09/29/08 00:56 I know jboticsource is familiar with decision matrices, and I think setting up one of those would be a good idea because in addition to helping us pick a design now, it would be good to include in the design report kleinjt: 09/29/08 00:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/29/08 00:57 tuesday is already taken, auchter's going to have the electronics stuff done by then so we're going to be testing everything to make sure it works for next weekend #rhrt: 09/29/08 00:59 it probably is a good idea to have a design meeting at some point though #rhrt: 09/29/08 00:59 we should do that in a room with a projector #rhrt: 09/29/08 01:01 I can't come next Sun, but most Sundays and Tuesdays work for me #rhrt: 09/29/08 01:05 i have worked with decision matrices before #rhrt: 09/29/08 01:05 i imagine i've done something simmilar but with a different name #rhrt: 09/29/08 01:07 basically you list all the criteria and how important each one is, then rate each option for each one of the criteria and add up the ratings to find the best option TheBrickWahl: 09/29/08 01:20 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/29/08 01:23 I agree with having a design meeting before the mechanical team starts ordering and building things. #rhrt: 09/29/08 01:25 i have a meeting with boutell about getting us cha$h #rhrt: 09/29/08 01:25 this tuesday at 5th period Mishtal: 09/29/08 01:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/29/08 01:28 I can be there too, provided it doesn't take so long that I don't get to eat lunch. #rhrt: 09/29/08 01:29 i imgine like 20 or 30 min max, but if u need to leave that it is ok #rhrt: 09/29/08 01:29 I can manage that. #rhrt: 09/29/08 01:30 so maple linux is network only #rhrt: 09/29/08 01:30 sry, wrong window kleinjt: 09/29/08 01:35 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 09/29/08 01:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/29/08 02:08 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/29/08 02:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/29/08 02:14 what eagle version do we have? #rhrt: 09/29/08 02:44 we don't own a license to any version #rhrt: 09/29/08 02:45 we use the most recent one on eagle's website #rhrt: 09/29/08 02:45 erm, the freeware version #rhrt: 09/29/08 02:45 i have 4.16 from precise path #rhrt: 09/29/08 02:45 on linux and windows #rhrt: 09/29/08 02:45 5.2 is the most recent version jboticsource: 09/29/08 02:48 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/29/08 02:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/29/08 02:55 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/29/08 03:09 jboticsource: I doubt that we can really use that copy. You're probably not supposed to have it installed anymore. #rhrt: 09/29/08 03:11 yea prob #rhrt: 09/29/08 04:01 sry that i was 10 min late to the meeting #rhrt: 09/29/08 04:01 i tried to call tommost and andy753421 #rhrt: 09/29/08 04:02 but got voicemails #rhrt: 09/29/08 04:33 jboticsource: Percopo is a faraday cage. My cell phone has not seen a signal for at least a week. #rhrt: 09/29/08 04:34 speaking of faraday cages, i need to see if there is an external antenna i can get for my sidekick in my apt #rhrt: 09/29/08 04:36 and/or car #rhrt: 09/29/08 04:37 so i can get some serious 800/900/1800/1900 mhz receiving action #rhrt: 09/29/08 04:43 They're actually looking at getting cell phone repeaters for Percopo and the Apartments. I know that they're available in the $300 range. #rhrt: 09/29/08 04:44 the campus really needs it #rhrt: 09/29/08 04:48 basicly, i cant call ppl while i am on campus because i cant hear them. i am reduced to texting #rhrt: 09/29/08 04:48 ! #rhrt: 09/29/08 04:55 tommost: can i text you? do you have a texting plan? #rhrt: 09/29/08 05:05 I hate texts. Passionately. #rhrt: 09/29/08 05:05 Good night. tommost: 09/29/08 05:05 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." jboticsource: 09/29/08 06:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) collinjc: 09/29/08 07:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/29/08 07:58 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/29/08 08:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/29/08 08:15 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/29/08 08:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/29/08 08:54 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/29/08 08:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/29/08 09:04 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/29/08 09:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/29/08 11:02 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 09/29/08 11:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/29/08 11:10 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 09/29/08 11:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/29/08 11:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/29/08 11:55 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 09/29/08 11:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/29/08 12:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/29/08 12:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/29/08 12:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/29/08 12:34 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal1: 09/29/08 12:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/29/08 12:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/29/08 12:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/29/08 13:20 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal1: 09/29/08 13:30 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/29/08 13:39 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection collinjc: 09/29/08 13:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/29/08 13:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/29/08 14:22 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 09/29/08 14:23 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/29/08 14:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/29/08 14:34 I made a few more changes to the motor controller controller code. Apparently using it is a good idea to make any variables that are used in interrupts 'volatile' #rhrt: 09/29/08 14:37 heh, that's strange. that's implied, unless they're doing something weird jboticsource: 09/29/08 15:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/29/08 15:18 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource1: 09/29/08 15:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/29/08 15:31 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource1: 09/29/08 15:52 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/29/08 15:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/29/08 15:53 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 09/29/08 16:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/29/08 16:38 >< PART #rhrt : kleinjt: 09/29/08 17:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/29/08 18:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/29/08 18:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/29/08 18:41 >< PART #rhrt : collinjc: 09/29/08 18:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/29/08 19:46 tommost: If you haven't looked at the comp arch practice test yet, it is pretty scary. A third of it is RHIJ, which we didn't cover much in class, and another third is RTL level, which we won't be covering until after the test... #rhrt: 09/29/08 19:51 have fun with that guys. i know i did #rhrt: 09/29/08 19:51 comp arch is cake #rhrt: 09/29/08 19:51 it wasnt bad, your right #rhrt: 09/29/08 19:52 it's the best class i've taken so far #rhrt: 09/29/08 19:53 in terms of content or difficulty? #rhrt: 09/29/08 19:53 the content is enjoyable, and this class is pretty easy as well #rhrt: 09/29/08 19:53 It is a really interesting class so far, and I'm enjoying what we learn. The only problem is that the stuff on the practice test isn't stuff we've learned yet.. #rhrt: 09/29/08 20:22 I'm scared... #rhrt: 09/29/08 21:35 kleinjt: what's the status of the circuit breakers for the robot? #rhrt: 09/29/08 21:36 (the old one, that is) #rhrt: 09/29/08 21:36 They were never wired up. #rhrt: 09/29/08 21:37 cool #rhrt: 09/29/08 21:44 gah, i wish scp would either barf or imply that i meant ``hostname:~'' when i type ``hostname'' for the destination. #rhrt: 09/29/08 21:45 that was intended for #rhlug, in case anyone was wondering #rhrt: 09/29/08 21:50 https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/igvc/requirements jboticsource: 09/29/08 22:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/29/08 23:22 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/29/08 23:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/30/08 00:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/30/08 00:16 Put stuff on the requirements page! https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/igvc/requirements jboticsource: 09/30/08 00:55 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 09/30/08 01:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/30/08 01:03 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/30/08 01:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/30/08 01:48 I've finished configuring samba on the server. #rhrt: 09/30/08 01:48 The MEs should be happy now. kleinjt: 09/30/08 02:01 >< PART #rhrt : Mishtal: 09/30/08 04:44 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net collinjc: 09/30/08 04:44 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost: 09/30/08 04:44 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net andy753421: 09/30/08 04:44 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net TheBrickWahl: 09/30/08 04:44 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net jboticsource: 09/30/08 04:44 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 09/30/08 04:44 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net andy753421: 09/30/08 04:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/30/08 04:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/30/08 04:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/30/08 04:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/30/08 04:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt auchter: 09/30/08 04:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/30/08 04:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/30/08 05:04 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net andy753421: 09/30/08 05:04 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net andy753421: 09/30/08 05:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/30/08 05:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/30/08 05:15 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net andy753421: 09/30/08 05:15 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net jboticsource: 09/30/08 05:16 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net andy753421: 09/30/08 05:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 09/30/08 05:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 09/30/08 05:21 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net TheBrickWahl: 09/30/08 05:21 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net andy753421: 09/30/08 05:21 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost: 09/30/08 05:21 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net collinjc: 09/30/08 05:21 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net Mishtal: 09/30/08 05:21 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net auchter: 09/30/08 05:21 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net TheBrickWahl: 09/30/08 05:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/30/08 05:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt auchter: 09/30/08 05:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/30/08 05:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/30/08 05:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/30/08 05:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt shadghost: 09/30/08 05:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/30/08 05:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/30/08 06:09 >< QUIT : verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net jboticsource: 09/30/08 06:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/30/08 06:23 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/30/08 06:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/30/08 06:51 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) collinjc: 09/30/08 06:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/30/08 07:07 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/30/08 07:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/30/08 07:32 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection tommost: 09/30/08 07:58 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." Mishtal: 09/30/08 08:47 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 09/30/08 09:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/30/08 09:42 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 09/30/08 09:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/30/08 09:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/30/08 09:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/30/08 10:01 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 09/30/08 10:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/30/08 10:23 reminder: 11:45 meeting with Dr. Boutell. If you would like to come, you are of course welcome. collinjc: 09/30/08 10:44 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/30/08 10:48 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/30/08 10:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/30/08 10:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/30/08 11:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Mishtal: 09/30/08 11:39 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 09/30/08 11:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/30/08 11:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/30/08 12:18 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/30/08 12:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/30/08 12:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/30/08 12:25 the administration does not have any funding they could give us #rhrt: 09/30/08 12:26 which administration...? SGA? kleinjt: 09/30/08 12:31 >< PART #rhrt : #rhrt: 09/30/08 12:31 jboticsource: ? #rhrt: 09/30/08 12:32 not sga #rhrt: 09/30/08 12:32 oh #rhrt: 09/30/08 12:32 the school itsef #rhrt: 09/30/08 12:32 like the robotics grant etc #rhrt: 09/30/08 12:32 understood. Is there an alternative we could pursue? #rhrt: 09/30/08 12:32 SGA and external and padgett #rhrt: 09/30/08 12:33 what does talking to padgett do? #rhrt: 09/30/08 12:33 which reminds me, when are we going to put together a form letter to send out? #rhrt: 09/30/08 12:33 this might be outside the scope of what Engenious solutions, but they do have a large chunk of money... #rhrt: 09/30/08 12:34 I can write it, but I don't know what to include Mishtal: 09/30/08 12:34 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection kleinjt: 09/30/08 12:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/30/08 13:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/30/08 13:41 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 09/30/08 13:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/30/08 13:48 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection jboticsource: 09/30/08 13:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/30/08 14:17 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 09/30/08 14:22 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/30/08 14:24 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 09/30/08 14:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/30/08 14:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/30/08 14:59 >< PART #rhrt : jboticsource: 09/30/08 15:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/30/08 15:20 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 09/30/08 15:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/30/08 16:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/30/08 16:35 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 09/30/08 16:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/30/08 17:06 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 09/30/08 17:14 kleinjt: i finished desoldering the mosfets on the other controller #rhrt: 09/30/08 17:14 i soldered four new ones on; it works in one direction... #rhrt: 09/30/08 17:20 auchter: not both? #rhrt: 09/30/08 17:21 auchter: I'm in a comp arch project meeting, then I've got another meeting, then I've got thirty minutes to test the program I wrote before robotics... Mishtal: 09/30/08 17:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/30/08 17:28 ok jboticsource: 09/30/08 17:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 09/30/08 17:49 how to i make links on trac #rhrt: 09/30/08 17:50 ? #rhrt: 09/30/08 17:52 [wiki:wiki-page-name Link text] #rhrt: 09/30/08 17:53 what does that mean #rhrt: 09/30/08 17:53 page #rhrt: 09/30/08 17:53 name #rhrt: 09/30/08 17:53 link #rhrt: 09/30/08 17:53 text #rhrt: 09/30/08 17:54 Look at some existing pages. kleinjt: 09/30/08 17:54 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) collinjc: 09/30/08 18:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 09/30/08 18:24 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/30/08 18:26 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) Mishtal: 09/30/08 18:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/30/08 19:10 >< QUIT : "He left it dead, and with its head / He went galumphing back." kleinjt: 09/30/08 19:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 09/30/08 19:20 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/30/08 19:22 >< QUIT : "Leaving." collinjc: 09/30/08 19:26 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/30/08 19:27 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/30/08 19:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/30/08 20:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/30/08 20:20 >< QUIT : Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) Mishtal: 09/30/08 20:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/30/08 21:33 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 09/30/08 21:52 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/30/08 22:01 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 09/30/08 22:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/30/08 22:27 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection #rhrt: 09/30/08 22:27 ACTION reads http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/ Mishtal: 09/30/08 22:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/30/08 22:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mishtal: 09/30/08 22:47 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection Mishtal: 09/30/08 22:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 09/30/08 23:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt collinjc: 09/30/08 23:30 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/30/08 23:42 >< QUIT : "Leaving." Mishtal: 09/30/08 23:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt