rhrtlog: 05/04/09 19:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:26 yea, i agree, the python way would probably be `better' i just don't know what it is #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:26 What is it that makes your code incompatible with g++? #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:26 i don't remember, something or another #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:26 (let me check) #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:29 hm.. i used the term `class' as a variable #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:29 :s/class/cls/ #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:29 compiling with g++ also just scares me #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:30 no, don't give in! #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:30 apparently it requires you to cast (double*0 to (void*) #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:30 Frankly, compiling Python extensions without distutils scares me. #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:31 frankly, a build system that magically picks between gcc and g++ (and fails) scares me #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:31 Point taken. #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:31 perhaps this calls for a trip to #python ? #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:31 Exactly what I was about to suggest. :) #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:33 i wonder if there's a #guido #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:33 Heh. #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:37 :( #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:38 ~~~~~~~:> #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:38 snake! it'sa snake! #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:38 i take it the guido worshippers are being unhelpful? #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:38 #python is not being useful #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:38 Yeah, it's pretty dead. #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:38 Weird. #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:47 Could we set up a makefile to compile the C++ file to an object file and then link that in in the setup.py? #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:48 possibly, can we make setup.py run the makefile first? #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:49 Don't we just call setup.py from the makefile? #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:49 That's how I run it. #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:49 Just put it in the makefile. #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:49 oh, i see #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:49 maybe? #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:50 we still need to tell setup.py to link the .o file #rhrt: 05/04/09 19:51 We could probably use the extra_link_args argument of the Extension class to do that. TheBrickWahl: 05/04/09 20:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/04/09 20:18 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 05/04/09 21:31 andy753421: Were you planning on going to the competition? #rhrt: 05/04/09 21:32 yea #rhrt: 05/04/09 21:32 Okay, good... it may conflict with my brother's graduation so I might not be there for all of it. #rhrt: 05/04/09 21:33 alright TheBrickWahl: 05/04/09 22:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/04/09 22:22 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 05/04/09 22:35 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 05/04/09 22:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/04/09 23:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 05/05/09 00:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:19 who all is going to the competition again? #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:22 ACTION raises his hand #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:22 you are no on the list #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:23 I haven't been to any of the administrative meetings this quarter, where do I need to sign up? #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:23 I am making the lsit #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:23 ok, put me on it #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:23 for the club travel packet #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:23 ACTION waves excitedly #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:23 ACTION is also not travelling with the club, per se #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:24 ACTION is, in fact, going to just tangentially show up #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:24 here is the list #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:24 Jay Kinzie NickWahl Andy Spencer Mike Auchter Trenton Tabor Jon Klein Tom Most #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:47 jboticsource: I'm not sure if you saw before, but I might not be there for all of it if it conflicts with my brother's graduation. #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:51 weren't we limited in the number of people who could come to the competition? #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:51 regardless, i don't know that i even need to be listed. #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:52 I think that the number of people SGA will compensate us for is limited. #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:52 If the IGVC imposes a limit it's far, far higher than seven based on the teams there last year. #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:53 well, IGVC wouldn't impose a limit, it wouldn't make sense #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:53 i'm saying for SGA purposes, i don't think i need to be listed #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:57 sga is paying for the travel of 6 people. there is to limit to how many we can bring. #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:59 When is the paper due? #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:59 jboticsource: do i need to go to SGA tomorrow (today)? #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:59 yes #rhrt: 05/05/09 00:59 When? #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:00 you should remind e #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:00 5:30 #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:00 I'll send out an e-mail. #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:00 that is a good idea #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:00 jboticsource: Or you can. #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:00 you have the lists of the people #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:00 Um, all you have to do is send it to arc@mailman.rose... #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:00 oh #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:00 ok #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:01 I thought there was more to it than that #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:01 No, that's it. #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:01 yea sure I will then #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:02 tommost: I will put you on the list in case you go to the competition #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:02 there is no penalty if you don't go #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:03 Oh, I'm going. I just may not be there the whole time. #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:03 oh ok #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:09 tommost: you should let me know if I need to drop you off at an airport or something #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:09 Okay. I will. #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:10 if anyone needs a ride to DTW sunday at around 3PM, that's when i'll be heading out #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:16 i'm planning on staying at rose for the week after school #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:16 finals week? yeah, it looks like i'll be here too with no actual work to do (i've got a presentation on thursday and one on friday) #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:17 i was planning on staying finals week and the week after, than then going strait from rose to the competition #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:17 I'll be doing something similar, though at some point in there I need to go back to WI to renew my driver's license and pick up a car. #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:18 That may actually happen the weekend before finals. #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:18 ok, most likely i'll be back in michigan 28. or 29. may through 7. june #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:19 i don't have any finals, so i'll be working on stuff during finals week. #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:23 The report should not exceed 15 letter-sized pages, including graphic material and all appendices, but not including the title page. Line spacing must be at least 1.5, with at least a 10 point font (12 is preferred). Each vehicle must have a distinct and complete report of its own (a report cannot cover more than one vehicle). Participants are required to submit four hard copies of the report and an electronic copy on a CD; fai #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:23 may 18 the paper is due in their hands #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:24 or we loose #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:24 ok we should discuss this tomorrow #rhrt: 05/05/09 01:24 I should have pastebined that #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:05 don't forget to talk to fisher to register for the robotics class _polto_: 05/05/09 02:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:10 <_polto_> hi #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:11 hi #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:11 who are you? #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:11 <_polto_> I am Alexandre from Elphel, Inc. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:11 Ah, hello. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:11 hello #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:11 <_polto_> just seen http://www.rhitrobotics.org/wiki/meetings/2009-03-31 #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:11 <_polto_> hi #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:11 <_polto_> :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:12 Oh, yes, I should post our minutes from last week... #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:12 <_polto_> do you need any help guys ? #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:13 we have one of your cameras for obstacle detection #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:13 we could really use a second for a stereo set up #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:13 we have the code for it basically done, it is just a matter of hardware #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:13 <_polto_> interesting.. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:13 the code for stereo that is #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:13 At this moment I don't think so. So far as vision goes we haven't gotten to the point of doing anything special on the camera itself, but we hope to do that next year. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:13 <_polto_> what kind of code do you have ? #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:13 jboticsource: No, you're confused. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:14 <_polto_> :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:14 we use a combonation of python and C #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:14 <_polto_> ok, opencv ? #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:15 We have old stuff from the helicopter project, but it's not immediately applicable. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:15 I've finally taken the Computer Vision course here, so I'm hoping for stereo next year. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:15 _polto_: Yeah. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:15 andy753421 is our vision guy; he's probably asleep right now. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:16 <_polto_> ok. interesting. So what do you need ? #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:16 We'd need another camera for stereo. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:18 That's for next year; we wouldn't have enough time to get stereo going before the competition 5 or so weeks from now. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:18 We could really use some sort of sticker with your logo on it to put on our robot this year, though. :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:19 <_polto_> ok, have you guys seen this: http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=Elphel_camera_parts#MNC354-2 ? we will soon commercialize the hardware solution. the FPGA code is in progress. you can follow it on http://blogs.elphel.com/category/oleg/ #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:19 <_polto_> :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:19 Oh, wow. No, I hadn't seen that. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:19 <_polto_> you should also get a "green" icon on http://map.elphel.com/ #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:20 Yeah, will do. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:20 <_polto_> heh :) show it to andy753421 :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:21 <_polto_> and how efficient is your opencv stuff ? what resolution , FPS, ... ? #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:21 <_polto_> how the result look ? #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:23 <_polto_> if you describe something interesting on our wiki with examples of code under GPL v3 of course, images, some data on performance that may interest others, ... we may eventually upgrade your setup.. ;) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:23 We downscale the image significantly, I know—there's more image there than we need. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:24 I'm not sure of FPS numbers. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:24 We'd be happy to document things on your wiki. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:24 And all of our code is GPL v3. :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:26 <_polto_> :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:26 So the stereo rig you posted a link of... that means a single exposure contains two views, or do you switch between them? #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:26 <_polto_> as all our. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:26 :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:27 <_polto_> this camera is based on 10353 + 10359 + 2 sensors. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:27 Ah. I was wondering how you would get both images to the FPGA for processing in a dual-camera system. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:27 <_polto_> 10359 is configurable for many different setups. but in this case it will trigger images together #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:28 <_polto_> they are few ways. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:28 (yo) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:28 <_polto_> this camera use one main board and two sensors with a 10359 multiplexor board. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:28 <_polto_> hey andy753421 ! #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:29 hey :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:29 Hm... well, we have an old (terribly, proprietary) stereo rig sitting around. I'll try to get some stereo stuff together using that, to prove our interest. :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:29 i'm reading though some of those links at the moment #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:29 <_polto_> the other way is two NC353L-10369 synched together. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:30 Okay, I have to go to bed... I register for next year's classes in < 4.5 hours and I don't want to sleep through that. :-/ #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:30 <_polto_> PLS no proprietary stuff to prove your interest! we like proofs, but not torture ! #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:31 <_polto_> LOL, good night #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:31 _polto_: there is another cool optical project that we are working on. We are working on a real time structured light imaging system #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:31 It's CameraLink, of you've heard of it... doesn't work with modern kernels. Good night. :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:31 _polto_: what he means by that is that we'd be using the proprietary cameras, but the software would still be free #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:32 <_polto_> ok, guys, write on our wiki, send your GPS coordinate and a link to your project site for our map, and let's talk. :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:33 will do! Good to hear from you :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:33 we are using OpenCV for most of the vision stuff, the processing speed varies greatly though #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:34 we're currently using the machine learning opencv API to do pixel classification, which accounts for the majority of the processing time #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:34 we've got an older hard-coded implementation that goes faster, but it harder to calibrate for lighting and such #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:34 <_polto_> andy753421: we would be interested in as much examples and docs as possible. we are interested to have partnership with vision people. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:35 most of the examples we'd be giving would be more related to OpenCV than to elphel, if that'd be OK #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:36 <_polto_> we are OK to provide hardware and we are doing FPGA development, but our vision experience is near to 0. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:36 <_polto_> let's do one or two examples based on Elphel. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:37 <_polto_> we have one for now, it's a friend who love GO. http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=Kifu:_Go_game_record_(kifu)_generator #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:39 I did a project last quarter that use OpenCV to locate and track tennis balls. The code is pretty simple so it might work well as an example. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:40 <_polto_> what does it need as input ? RTSP ? file ? v4l ? #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:40 it's using v4l right now #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:41 <_polto_> http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=AVLD_-_Another_Video_Loopback_Device #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:41 <_polto_> ;) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:41 yea, we've been working getting that set up :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:42 I had to recompile mencoder with proper support for RTSP but haven't had a chance to test it yet #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:42 <_polto_> :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:44 https://andy753421.ath.cx/svn/imagerec/report.doc #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:44 sorry about .doc, I didn't write the report ;) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:44 that project wasn't for robotics so it's not actually using the elphel camera to acquire the images, but it could be easily converted to do so #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:46 https://andy753421.ath.cx/svn/imagerec/screens/output.jpg there's the final output #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:46 <_polto_> http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=10359 will implement some basic stereovision algorithm to provide z(x,y) , many others are possible. 10379 will be based on the new Spartan 6 with DDR3 memory. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:47 <_polto_> andy753421: ok, the tennis stuff is really interesting. Have you some demo videos ? #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:47 have you started any of the stereo code yet? #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:48 <_polto_> stereo is also very interesting sure. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:48 <_polto_> yes #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:48 <_polto_> it work in simulation, we are now implementing it on 10359. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:48 the biggest problem I had when working on stereo stuff a while back was determining the point correspondences between the right and left images.. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:49 <_polto_> you can follow the development on the http://blogs.elphel.com/category/oleg/ #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:50 I don't have any videos of the tennis ball stuff, but i might be able to make some at some point #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:50 <_polto_> our casing for stereo camera will have optically aligned sensors. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:50 <_polto_> andy753421: as I understand any tennis video passed via the program will do the job ? #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:52 It depends, we were developing for close up/slow moving tennis balls. I don't think it would work if you passed it a video of an actual tennis match. #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:54 we were doing real-time processing too, so we don't have any code to process saved videos from filse #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:54 *files #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:55 <_polto_> ok #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:56 <_polto_> Elphel cameras are capable of doing 150 FPS at 640x480, ... So imaging the possibilities for slow-motion replay of sport events ... :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:58 unfortunately our code only runs at ~10 FPS at 640x480 :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 02:59 (I won't be able to do much tonight (have to work on my thesis), but I'll try to get an example written up on your wiki in the next week or so) #rhrt: 05/05/09 03:03 <_polto_> LOL, it's not so urgent. #rhrt: 05/05/09 03:03 <_polto_> :) #rhrt: 05/05/09 03:04 <_polto_> any way my laptop battery is almost gone and not my beer... #rhrt: 05/05/09 03:04 <_polto_> ok, see you later, do not hesitate to come on #rhrt: 05/05/09 03:04 <_polto_> #elphel #rhrt: 05/05/09 03:04 <_polto_> and post on our wiki #rhrt: 05/05/09 03:05 <_polto_> see you!, good thesis, good night / day / ... _polto_: 05/05/09 03:06 >< PART #rhrt : "Ex-Chat" #rhrt: 05/05/09 03:07 eh, just missed him TheBrickWahl: 05/05/09 08:45 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 05/05/09 08:57 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 05/05/09 10:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt chtr: 05/05/09 11:43 >< QUIT : hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net kleinjt: 05/05/09 11:43 >< QUIT : hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost: 05/05/09 11:43 >< QUIT : hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net andy753421: 05/05/09 11:43 >< QUIT : hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net killer_robot: 05/05/09 11:43 >< QUIT : hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net TheBrickWahl: 05/05/09 11:43 >< QUIT : hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost: 05/05/09 11:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/05/09 11:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/05/09 11:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt chtr: 05/05/09 11:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 05/05/09 11:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt killer_robot: 05/05/09 11:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt irc.freenode.net: 05/05/09 11:43 >< MODE #rhrt +oo tommost killer_robot : andy753421: 05/05/09 13:20 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost_xp: 05/05/09 13:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/05/09 13:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_xp: 05/05/09 14:21 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost_xp: 05/05/09 14:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy7534211: 05/05/09 14:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/05/09 14:34 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost_xp: 05/05/09 15:15 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 05/05/09 15:35 Is anyone planning on staying at rose this summer? #rhrt: 05/05/09 15:37 (in past years, we've gotten free housing during the summer if you work on robotics) TheBrickWahl: 05/05/09 17:05 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy7534211: 05/05/09 19:19 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/05/09 19:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt chtr: 05/05/09 20:43 >< QUIT : "Lost terminal" chtr: 05/05/09 20:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 05/05/09 20:53 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:12 Hm, so I seem to have missed the meeting. #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:13 yea #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:13 chtr and I were there #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:13 I got some work done before the meeting #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:13 "meeting" #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:23 Ah, good. #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:23 there is a gear on a hub #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:23 that was fun on the lathe #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:24 hot oil covered metal shavings being spewed everywhere #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:24 it was real oil #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:24 not like wd40 #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:24 the type of oil that retains heat #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:25 that you drop boiling from castles #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:26 I went to Wal-mart and got cough drops, among other sickness-related products. #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:33 yeah, when i get swine-flu my first order of business will be going to a crowded commercial area and infecting all who dwell within too #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:37 good idea, I'll go there tomorrow #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:42 chtr: That joke is so funny; I laughed at it every time I heard it today. And yesterday. And the previous two days. And Friday. #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:46 i pride myself on being original #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:52 tommost: did you raise a complaint to a senator about a camera being cut? #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:52 and a drive being cut? #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:52 lol #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:53 Um, no, I've been sick. I haven't done much of anything for about 5 days now. #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:53 someone did, and i'm angry with whoever it was #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:54 Why, what happened? #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:54 we had to wait a long time to get called into the SGA meeting #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:54 because of this email. #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:54 and we just got the finance req anyway #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:55 which was inevitable #rhrt: 05/05/09 21:55 it bothered chtr much more than me andy753421: 05/05/09 22:21 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 05/05/09 22:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 05/05/09 22:33 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) andy753421: 05/05/09 23:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/06/09 00:01 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 05/06/09 12:29 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 05/06/09 12:36 >< QUIT : hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost: 05/06/09 12:36 >< QUIT : hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net chtr: 05/06/09 12:36 >< QUIT : hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net killer_robot: 05/06/09 12:36 >< QUIT : hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net killer_robot: 05/06/09 12:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt chtr: 05/06/09 12:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 05/06/09 12:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 05/06/09 12:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt irc.freenode.net: 05/06/09 12:43 >< MODE #rhrt +oo killer_robot tommost : andy753421: 05/06/09 12:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/06/09 13:36 the gps works #rhrt: 05/06/09 13:37 cool andy753421: 05/06/09 15:24 >< QUIT : Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/06/09 15:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/06/09 18:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/06/09 21:02 andy753421: Meeting? #rhrt: 05/06/09 21:10 yea, i'm heading over now andy753421: 05/06/09 21:15 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) andy753421: 05/06/09 21:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt Morasique: 05/06/09 23:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt Morasique: 05/06/09 23:00 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 05/06/09 23:40 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/06/09 23:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/06/09 23:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy7534211: 05/07/09 00:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/07/09 00:05 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost_xp: 05/07/09 10:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_xp: 05/07/09 11:37 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy7534211: 05/07/09 13:31 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) andy753421: 05/07/09 13:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/07/09 15:08 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/07/09 15:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/07/09 16:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 05/07/09 16:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/07/09 17:03 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 05/07/09 17:06 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) TheBrickWahl: 05/07/09 17:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 05/07/09 17:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 05/07/09 17:17 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) TheBrickWahl: 05/07/09 17:19 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource1: 05/07/09 17:55 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 05/07/09 17:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/07/09 18:25 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 05/07/09 18:34 two more victors are in the mail #rhrt: 05/07/09 18:37 free victors? #rhrt: 05/07/09 18:37 yep #rhrt: 05/07/09 18:37 cool andy753421: 05/07/09 19:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/07/09 19:40 #plan9 can be amusing: http://rafb.net/p/y9JtgH15.html #rhrt: 05/07/09 19:44 oh, i win at irc channels jboticsource: 05/07/09 21:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 05/07/09 22:30 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 05/07/09 22:50 >< QUIT : Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/07/09 22:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/07/09 23:35 ! #rhrt: 05/07/09 23:35 plenty of time #rhrt: 05/07/09 23:35 chtr: Get started then. #rhrt: 05/07/09 23:36 will do tommost: 05/07/09 23:36 >< MODE #rhrt +o rhrtlog : tommost: 05/08/09 00:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) tommost: 05/08/09 00:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt chtr: 05/08/09 01:06 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection chtr: 05/08/09 01:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt killer_robot: 05/08/09 02:41 >< MODE #rhrt +o tommost : TheBrickWahl: 05/08/09 11:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/08/09 11:53 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 05/08/09 13:43 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 05/08/09 14:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/08/09 14:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 05/08/09 18:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/08/09 19:05 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl1: 05/09/09 00:10 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 05/09/09 12:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/09/09 15:55 so, what's new with the robot? #rhrt: 05/09/09 16:29 chtr: the wheels and new encoder mounts are very close to being ready #rhrt: 05/09/09 16:30 the only limiting factor at this point is when the machine shop is open #rhrt: 05/09/09 16:30 we got in there for a couple hours today #rhrt: 05/09/09 16:30 ok, cool #rhrt: 05/09/09 16:43 chtr: are the electronics ready to move when we get the wheels and encoders on? #rhrt: 05/09/09 16:44 no #rhrt: 05/09/09 16:44 code needs to be changed. #rhrt: 05/09/09 16:44 but the hardware is ready? #rhrt: 05/09/09 16:45 no, not fully andy753421: 05/09/09 21:17 >< QUIT : Remote closed the connection andy753421: 05/09/09 21:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 05/09/09 21:24 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 05/09/09 21:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 05/09/09 23:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 05/10/09 00:17 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 05/10/09 01:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/10/09 13:51 jboticsource: are you coming at 3:00 or earlier? #rhrt: 05/10/09 13:52 3 #rhrt: 05/10/09 15:02 I'll be a little late to the meeting. tommost: 05/10/09 15:13 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 05/10/09 15:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt tomwm: 05/10/09 15:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt killer_robot: 05/10/09 15:41 >< MODE #rhrt +o tomwm : killer_robot: 05/10/09 15:42 >< MODE #rhrt +o tommost : #rhrt: 05/10/09 15:42 ls #rhrt: 05/10/09 15:49 electronics #rhrt: 05/10/09 15:49 software #rhrt: 05/10/09 15:49 mechanical #rhrt: 05/10/09 15:50 ^C #rhrt: 05/10/09 15:51 % tommost: 05/10/09 17:36 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 05/10/09 17:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/10/09 19:09 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/10/09 19:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 05/10/09 20:09 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost_xp: 05/10/09 20:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_xp: 05/10/09 20:43 >< QUIT : Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) tommost_xp: 05/10/09 20:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 05/10/09 21:02 >< PART #rhrt : tommost_xp: 05/10/09 23:03 >< QUIT : Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) andy7534211: 05/10/09 23:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/10/09 23:46 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 05/11/09 00:12 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 05/11/09 01:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt killer_robot: 05/11/09 01:31 >< MODE #rhrt +o tommost : andy7534211: 05/11/09 04:08 >< NICK : luglog luglog: 05/11/09 04:11 >< NICK : andy753421 andy753421: 05/11/09 13:27 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) andy753421: 05/11/09 13:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/11/09 14:24 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) andy753421: 05/11/09 14:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/11/09 16:02 I comitted a few updates to the 2009 igvc paper TheBrickWahl: 05/11/09 18:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 05/11/09 18:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:42 jboticsource: is it amazing? #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:43 of course! #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:43 and did I turn that sprocket down enough? #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:43 amazazazazing #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:43 yes #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:43 how far did you get on the second one? #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:44 and for those who may be confused, one of the encoder mounts is completely finished #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:44 the other encoder shaft needs to be turned down a slight bit #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:44 and the other is very close #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:44 it is 30 min job #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:44 at most #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:46 that one wheel is on #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:46 and working #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:48 chtr can test with that one wheel now #rhrt: 05/11/09 18:51 the other should be done tomorrow with the battery box soon to follow andy7534211: 05/11/09 19:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy7534211: 05/11/09 19:04 >< PART #rhrt : andy753421: 05/11/09 19:13 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:39 attention mechanical team: for future reference, the anderson connector on the battery is *NOT* for decoration. please use it when you need to disconnect a battery instead of unscrewing the bolts. #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:40 hunting for the bolts and a proper wrench is not my idea of a good time #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:40 the bolts are on the corner of the mech table closest to the door #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:41 yeah, i found them already, but still, use the bloody connector in the future. the one battery i can understand since it was hardwired, but i'm not entirely sure what went through the brain of whoever did it to the one with the connector... #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:42 I just removed both when we were messing with getting the wheels on and lifting it. I forgot we had a real connector #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:48 Forgot? It's like three inches long. Hard to miss. #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:52 so, ``cannot import name _vision'' #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:53 Let me take a look. #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:54 meh, i hacked at it and got the gui to launch. #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:54 Comment out line 45 in controller.py #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:55 (We intend to add command-line switches to disable hardware like this but haven't gotten to it yet. #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:55 ) #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:55 yep, already did that #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:55 Okay. #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:58 ok, so in my unscientific testing, it looks like the encoder spins at max of about 660RPM (-0.21875 * 3000) #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:58 i'm going to change that max thing to 3000*0.25 #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:58 Go ahead. #rhrt: 05/11/09 20:59 that wheel's wobbly as hell #rhrt: 05/11/09 21:00 http://freya.phire.org/shots/2009-05-12_01:04:17_1920x1200.png #rhrt: 05/11/09 21:00 it is....i noticed that....the stuff we made is good, but the actual hub bit is crap. we can prob fix it though TheBrickWahl: 05/11/09 21:21 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 05/11/09 21:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 05/11/09 23:49 >< QUIT : Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) TheBrickWahl: 05/11/09 23:52 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 05/12/09 00:03 so i just spent some time putting together an order from waytekwire.com #rhrt: 05/12/09 00:03 the order kinda needs to go out by tomorrow morning so we can hopefully get stuff by friday #rhrt: 05/12/09 00:04 i go to the ``go to checkout'' deal, and i get cert errors, which worries me a tad, though it might be irrational; anyone know anything about this site? i haven't seen anything really bad mentioned... #rhrt: 05/12/09 00:04 anyway, i'm going to hold off ordering; if someone wants to order (especially if they have a credit card that lets them generate one-time-use numbers for a certain amount), here's a ss of the page: #rhrt: 05/12/09 00:05 http://freya.phire.org/shots/2009-05-12_04:09:01_1920x1200.png tomwm: 05/12/09 00:12 >< QUIT : hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net killer_robot: 05/12/09 00:12 >< QUIT : hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost: 05/12/09 00:12 >< QUIT : hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net kleinjt: 05/12/09 00:12 >< QUIT : hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net tommost: 05/12/09 00:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt tomwm: 05/12/09 00:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 05/12/09 00:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt killer_robot: 05/12/09 00:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt irc.freenode.net: 05/12/09 00:13 >< MODE #rhrt +ooo tommost tomwm killer_robot : jboticsource: 05/12/09 03:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/12/09 04:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/12/09 08:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 05/12/09 08:51 >< PART #rhrt : TheBrickWahl: 05/12/09 08:51 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 05/12/09 09:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/12/09 09:46 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 05/12/09 10:44 anyone have any further thoughts about that website? TheBrickWahl: 05/12/09 10:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 05/12/09 11:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 05/12/09 11:05 >< QUIT : Client Quit TheBrickWahl: 05/12/09 11:20 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/12/09 12:50 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/12/09 14:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/12/09 18:30 chtr: You should hurry up and order stuff? #rhrt: 05/12/09 18:32 It's not like SSL is the weakest part of the transaction, even with cert errors. #rhrt: 05/12/09 18:45 it's more of a competency issue in my mind. #rhrt: 05/12/09 18:53 tommost: could you add graphing of the PID values returned by getstat to the gui? #rhrt: 05/12/09 18:53 Okay. #rhrt: 05/12/09 18:54 That's three values per motor? #rhrt: 05/12/09 18:54 yep #rhrt: 05/12/09 18:56 What's the range on these values? #rhrt: 05/12/09 19:05 16bit signed #rhrt: 05/12/09 19:06 Well I can see that from the code. What is their meaningful range? #rhrt: 05/12/09 19:06 (I'm wondering if I can clip it for display purposes.) #rhrt: 05/12/09 19:07 that is their meaningful range #rhrt: 05/12/09 19:08 Okay. #rhrt: 05/12/09 19:08 Do you need to be able to differentiate them? I need to pick colors... andy7534211: 05/12/09 19:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/12/09 19:10 yes, i do need to be able to tell them apart andy753421: 05/12/09 19:10 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) #rhrt: 05/12/09 19:10 Okay. #rhrt: 05/12/09 19:11 I've started work on it; I'll probably be able to finish at the meeting. #rhrt: 05/12/09 19:13 ok, sounds good #rhrt: 05/12/09 19:21 I may be a few minutes late to robotics, but I'm coming. #rhrt: 05/12/09 19:26 ok, sounds good jboticsource: 05/12/09 21:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy7534211: 05/12/09 22:16 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 05/12/09 23:15 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) jboticsource: 05/12/09 23:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/12/09 23:29 chtr: how far did you guys get on hooking up the motors? #rhrt: 05/12/09 23:50 the rest of the electronics team disappeared #rhrt: 05/12/09 23:50 ACTION glares at kleinjt and brian #rhrt: 05/12/09 23:51 not terribly far, in other words #rhrt: 05/13/09 00:01 we got all the victor -> fuseblock/bar cables, I'll make the victor -> motor cables tomorrow andy753421: 05/13/09 00:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/13/09 00:21 ok, sounds good. the motor controllers are acting weirdly, to say the least... #rhrt: 05/13/09 00:21 i'm planning on working on them tomorrow #rhrt: 05/13/09 00:24 mmkay, I'll likely be around in the afternoon jboticsource: 05/13/09 08:57 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tomwm: 05/13/09 11:47 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) kleinjt: 05/13/09 12:02 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) tommost: 05/13/09 12:04 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt_eee: 05/13/09 12:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt_eee: 05/13/09 12:51 >< QUIT : "Lost terminal" andy753421: 05/13/09 13:10 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) kleinjt: 05/13/09 13:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 05/13/09 14:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 05/13/09 14:53 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource: 05/13/09 14:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource: 05/13/09 15:14 >< QUIT : "Leaving." kleinjt: 05/13/09 15:22 >< QUIT : "Lost terminal" andy753421: 05/13/09 16:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 05/13/09 16:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt kleinjt: 05/13/09 16:11 >< NICK : kleinjt_addiator jboticsource: 05/13/09 17:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 05/13/09 18:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt chtr: 05/13/09 19:56 >< QUIT : "Lost terminal" chtr: 05/13/09 19:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/13/09 20:46 tommost: i'll be a few minutes late to robotics #rhrt: 05/13/09 20:54 andy753421: Okay. I'm heading there now myself. #rhrt: 05/13/09 21:33 ok, i'm heading over andy753421: 05/13/09 21:54 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/13/09 21:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt killer_robot: 05/14/09 00:15 >< MODE #rhrt +o tommost : #rhrt: 05/14/09 00:16 The vision code can capture video now. #rhrt: 05/14/09 00:16 We should be able to capture from the Elphel, though we haven't tested it yet. #rhrt: 05/14/09 00:16 oh, awesome andy753421: 05/14/09 01:21 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/14/09 01:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/14/09 02:48 Remind me to take a photo of the robot at the next meeting. andy753421: 05/14/09 09:25 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) jboticsource: 05/14/09 09:54 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 05/14/09 18:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/14/09 18:53 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/14/09 19:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/14/09 19:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 05/14/09 20:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/14/09 20:15 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl1: 05/14/09 21:29 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 05/14/09 22:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/14/09 23:49 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 05/15/09 00:38 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/15/09 01:02 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/15/09 01:56 kleinjt_addiator: could you get the remaining victors wired up soon? the circuit breakers should be here tomorrow, and i'd like to be able to calibrate & test with all victors andy753421: 05/15/09 02:58 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/15/09 08:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/15/09 09:05 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 05/15/09 09:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/15/09 09:46 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) TheBrickWahl: 05/15/09 10:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/15/09 11:42 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl: 05/15/09 14:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy7534211: 05/15/09 15:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 05/15/09 20:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/15/09 20:29 chtr: how is the paper? #rhrt: 05/15/09 22:20 We should probably switch Padget's signature to Fisher's right? #rhrt: 05/15/09 22:22 wow, i just did a diff on it, re really haven't done anything yet have we? #rhrt: 05/15/09 22:26 `Additionaly, the boards are connectioned with killswitch to cut power to the motors' ... #rhrt: 05/15/09 22:27 :set spell! #rhrt: 05/15/09 22:28 er, i guess i should say `:set spell'! #rhrt: 05/15/09 22:29 tommost: are we still using debian etch? #rhrt: 05/15/09 22:42 who came up with the indenting on this document? #rhrt: 05/15/09 22:46 i just fixed it #rhrt: 05/15/09 22:46 apparently it was a vim/latex-suite bug where the indentation after the comments in a description* didn't go back to normal #rhrt: 05/15/09 22:47 ok, update, or else we're going to get conflicted to hell #rhrt: 05/15/09 23:24 ok, i updated the electronics section a bit #rhrt: 05/15/09 23:44 andy7534211: I don't know; you're the one who would have changed it. #rhrt: 05/15/09 23:45 I think that we moved up to a newer version. tommost_lug: 05/15/09 23:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/16/09 00:01 I'm in Louisville, so I probably won't make Sunday's meeting. #rhrt: 05/16/09 00:03 ok #rhrt: 05/16/09 05:08 ok, i added a bunch of software stuff, there's still some to do though (i put in a todo comment) TheBrickWahl: 05/16/09 11:59 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 05/16/09 12:41 Okay, I'll work on it. #rhrt: 05/16/09 12:42 Has anyone added in the bit that Jay e-mailed us? TheBrickWahl: 05/16/09 12:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/16/09 12:54 chtr, kleinjt_addiator: You designed the boards so they could use CAN next year, right? #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:12 Is our lab space actually provided by SGA? #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:28 tommost_lug: some of them, yes #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:28 SGA doesn't provide us with lab space, but i'm not sure who really does #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:28 Okay. I mentioned that in the "Modular and expandable design" section of the report. #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:28 Yeah, that's what the report says. I'll fix that. #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:29 ok, i'll look over it and edit it in a bit, i just woke up #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:29 Just a moment --- I'll commit what I've done. #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:31 Hmm... we should probably upgrade to Debian "lenny". #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:32 andy7534211: Where is the source for the software architecture diagram? You misspelled 'interface'. #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:33 Also, why do you call them interface modules? They're called "navigators" in the code. #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:35 Also, it's "obstacle", not "obsticle". #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:36 they're in /doc in the software repo #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:36 i just made up the terminology #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:43 How is your thesis coming? #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:44 um, let's just say that i'm not in any danger of running out of things to do ;) #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:44 Yeah... #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:44 Neither am I. #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:45 I think that I'm going to work on my computer vision project now. If I get it worked out I can add stuff on it to our paper. #rhrt: 05/16/09 13:55 alright TheBrickWahl: 05/16/09 13:56 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 05/16/09 15:14 is there a reason we're using dos newlines in the latex document? TheBrickWahl: 05/16/09 15:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/16/09 16:09 Not that I'm aware of. #rhrt: 05/16/09 16:10 How close to being inline with the MicroStrain is the camera's lens? #rhrt: 05/16/09 16:10 Er, nevermind, I don't think that'll matter. #rhrt: 05/16/09 16:20 I added a local mirror of the OpenCV docs at http://rhitrobotics.org/docs/opencv/ #rhrt: 05/16/09 16:20 http://rhitrobotics.org/media/opencv/ #rhrt: 05/16/09 16:21 Heh, fancy that. #rhrt: 05/16/09 16:21 Is that linked anywhere? #rhrt: 05/16/09 16:21 not sure #rhrt: 05/16/09 16:22 Hm, well mine's actually a symlink to /usr/share/docs/opencv #rhrt: 05/16/09 16:22 Yours is static files. #rhrt: 05/16/09 16:23 yea, feel free to delete mine #rhrt: 05/16/09 16:24 i figured it'd be easier to have all the static files in the same directory though (instead of having both media and doc) #rhrt: 05/16/09 16:24 not a big deal though #rhrt: 05/16/09 16:45 ok, i fixed my typos and changed interfaces to navigators tommost: 05/16/09 17:07 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 05/16/09 19:38 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost_lug: 05/17/09 00:45 >< NICK : LiveFromLouisvil LiveFromLouisvil: 05/17/09 00:47 >< NICK : LiveNLouisville TheBrickWahl: 05/17/09 01:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl: 05/17/09 02:01 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost: 05/17/09 02:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 05/17/09 04:01 >< QUIT : "Leaving." jboticsource1: 05/17/09 05:06 >< QUIT : "Leaving." TheBrickWahl1: 05/17/09 09:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 05/17/09 13:24 >< QUIT : "Leaving." O8milluz[TPF]: 05/17/09 15:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt O8milluz[TPF]: 05/17/09 15:26 >< QUIT : andy7534211: 05/17/09 16:20 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) TheBrickWahl: 05/17/09 16:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt TheBrickWahl1: 05/17/09 16:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt chtr: 05/17/09 17:08 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) TheBrickWahl: 05/17/09 17:08 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) chtr: 05/17/09 17:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/17/09 17:59 n andy753421: 05/17/09 18:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt O8milluz[TPF]: 05/17/09 18:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/17/09 19:19 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) andy753421: 05/17/09 19:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 05/17/09 22:07 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/17/09 22:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt LiveNLouisville: 05/17/09 22:32 >< NICK : tommost_lug #rhrt: 05/17/09 22:46 tommost_lug: have you done anything with the paper recently? #rhrt: 05/17/09 23:03 hardware team: can we get some pictures of the new hardware in the report? #rhrt: 05/17/09 23:07 andy753421: I think tommost_lug has taken some, if not I can take some tomorrow #rhrt: 05/17/09 23:08 we may not have any since the batteries have been mounted and motors connected #rhrt: 05/17/09 23:08 alright, we need to get this turned in early tomorrow so we don't have much time #rhrt: 05/17/09 23:10 I won't be able to do anything until 2:30, so maybe someone else should take pictures #rhrt: 05/17/09 23:10 probably, when is tommost_lug getting back? #rhrt: 05/17/09 23:10 and is jay planning on taking it to Dr. Fisher and then mailing it? #rhrt: 05/17/09 23:10 he's back in Terre Haute, but I don't know if he's in the room right now #rhrt: 05/17/09 23:11 and no idea #rhrt: 05/17/09 23:11 ok #rhrt: 05/17/09 23:11 he left the room a few minutes ago but I don't know where he went O8milluz[TPF]: 05/17/09 23:25 >< QUIT : #rhrt: 05/17/09 23:33 Ok, I documented the autonomous software code #rhrt: 05/17/09 23:34 well, by documented, i sort of made up part of it based on some of the ideas we have on how we plan on implementing it. #rhrt: 05/17/09 23:34 someone should probably read though it and proofread and/or reorganize it since i'm currently way to tired to be able to write well. TheBrickWahl1: 05/17/09 23:55 >< QUIT : Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) tommost_lug: 05/18/09 01:25 >< NICK : tommost killer_robot: 05/18/09 01:26 >< MODE #rhrt +o tommost : andy753421: 05/18/09 13:33 >< QUIT : Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) andy753421: 05/18/09 14:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_xp: 05/18/09 14:10 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_xp: 05/18/09 14:16 >< QUIT : "Leaving." tommost1: 05/18/09 14:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost1: 05/18/09 14:21 >< NICK : tommost_pidgin andy7534211: 05/18/09 14:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_pidgin: 05/18/09 14:34 >< QUIT : "Leaving." andy753421: 05/18/09 14:37 >< QUIT : Connection timed out tommost1: 05/18/09 14:37 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost1: 05/18/09 14:37 >< NICK : tommost_pidgin tommost_pidgin: 05/18/09 14:47 >< QUIT : "Leaving." #rhrt: 05/18/09 16:16 chtr: is there any electronics stuff that needs to get done? #rhrt: 05/18/09 17:13 mmkay, I'm biking home tommost1: 05/18/09 18:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost1: 05/18/09 18:05 >< NICK : tommost_pidgin andy7534211: 05/18/09 19:08 >< QUIT : Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) andy753421: 05/18/09 19:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt jboticsource1: 05/18/09 19:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:33 igvc paper? #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:34 Yeah, we should work on that. #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:34 yeaa I would like to compete this year.... #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:35 tommost: how is the software paper? #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:35 chtr: how is the electronics paper? #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:36 jboticsource1: Andy did some work on it; I haven't looked at it since Saturday. #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:37 *cracks whip* #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:39 Yeah, it was a pretty bad weekend for all of us. #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:41 we need it done asap. Just try to cobble something together for tomorrow so we can mail it out. #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:42 I'm going to go over to the lab pretty soon and take some pictures. #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:42 jboticsource1: Someone needs to put in the mechanical team stuff. #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:42 I emailed it to you guys #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:42 Yeah. Someone needs to put that stuff in. #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:43 Also, we'll need the images as separate files. #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:43 why?........... #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:43 Because the paper is a LaTeX document.....? #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:43 we are not doing this in latex #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:43 wait #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:43 Too late. #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:43 NO #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:43 it is not going to be latex #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:43 you can make it in latex #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:44 but you need to export it out #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:44 To PDF, yes. #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:44 it is going to add extra work #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:44 They want it in PDF anyway; how is it extra work? #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:44 I need to dig up all the images etc...... #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:44 It would have been more work to not just start with last year's paper. #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:45 what even happened to just writing in OO........... #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:45 That never happened? #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:45 we wouldn't be able to version control it easily #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:46 dude........its a silly paper..........hack it up and make it work...this is not like some crazy amount of code......... #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:47 I'm going to get dinner and then take some pictures and try to calibrate the camera. #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:47 how about...write a portion of the paper so we can compete........ #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:48 Oh, lots of it has been written! #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:48 oh ok #rhrt: 05/18/09 19:48