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#rhrt: 11/01/09 00:50 <wahlnj> rthc: will you have the electronics meeting at the normal time tomorrow?
#rhrt: 11/01/09 00:51 <rthc>  if no email has been sent out, i'd prefer having it moved to 1pm
#rhrt: 11/01/09 00:51 <rthc> i have a lot to do these next two weeks.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 00:51 <tommost__> Okay, I'll send it out now.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 00:51 <tommost__> Do you guys have anything you want in it?
#rhrt: 11/01/09 00:52 <wahlnj> I guess we'll have the administrative meeting at 1:00 with team meetings following then?
#rhrt: 11/01/09 00:53 <rthc> yeah
#rhrt: 11/01/09 00:53 <wahlnj> you may want to mention the time change as well so people don't show up an hour early
#rhrt: 11/01/09 00:56 <tommost__> Yeah, good point.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 00:58 <robominator> nick, you want to build a prototype then? not much else we can do
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#rhrt: 11/01/09 13:01 <tommost__> I'll be there in a few minutes; please wait for me so I can take minutes.
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#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:25 <tommost_> There seems to be something wrong with one of the motor controllers.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:25 <egup> what's the issue?
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:31 <tommost_> It doesn't respond to serial communication.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:36 <egup> try resetting both controllers
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:36 <egup> you're sure both cables are plugged in, too?
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:40 <tommost_> Yeah, I traced the cable back.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:41 <tommost_> How should I reset them?
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:41 <egup> there's a button on them
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:42 <tommost_> FYI, they jerk when you press that button.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:42 <tommost_> You supply the heart attack.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:43 <egup> prereq: shut off motor circuit breaker
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:49 <tommost_> Well you should have mentioned that.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:50 <tommost_> It works now.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:50 <egup> cool
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:50 <tommost_> Okay, time for a meeting.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 15:50 <wahlnj> are you running the robot?
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#rhrt: 11/01/09 16:43 <tommost> wahlnj: No, though I left it on.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 16:43 <tommost> I'll be running it tomorrow.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 16:46 <egup> left what on?
#rhrt: 11/01/09 16:49 <tommost> The computer.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 16:49 <tommost> I'm pulling changes made on it off now; then I'll shut it down.
#rhrt: 11/01/09 16:50 <egup> ok
#rhrt: 11/01/09 16:50 <tommost> egup: Could you make sure that things are going to be sufficiently charged for driving it around tomorrow?
#rhrt: 11/01/09 16:53 <egup> sure
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#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:08 <robominator> mechanical parts are here, opened, and almost ready to begin
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:09 <robominator> can I get a woop woop?
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:09 <wahlnj> are they in the room?
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:09 <robominator> no, I laked them
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:09 <wahlnj> I saw Colin running around waving them earlier, but they weren't in the room when I stopped by a few minutes ago
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:09 <robominator> they are there, on the desk
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:10 <robominator> we have the mast, the cubes, and the plates
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:10 <wahlnj> btw, no one should start cutting anything yet
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:11 <robominator> der duh der
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:11 <robominator> wednesday meeting, el presidente
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:11 <robominator> finish making specs
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:12 <robominator> then start saturday
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:12 <robominator> finish by finals week
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:12 <robominator> ps, colin wants bolts
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:12 <wahlnj> yeah, I'd like to have a cut list ready before the meeting Wed, so we can start cutting then
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:13 <robominator> pps he wants to get really excited and tell about where he found them
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:14 <wahlnj> unfortunately I won't have any time before Wed
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:15 <robominator> I don't have any measurements on the rack mounts, I think that we need to make something up
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#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:46 <Lemur2010> I see you got filled in nick
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:46 <Lemur2010> i e-mailed you the bolts we should order
#rhrt: 11/02/09 11:46 <Lemur2010> i checked and they are the right size and length
#rhrt: 11/02/09 12:10 <Lemur2010> I just updated the files on the server with the part files from DFS.  I still can't seem to do the \\rhitrobotics.org log in via explorer, but i can via SecureFX.
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#rhrt: 11/02/09 13:45 <Lemur2010> I think it could be a good idea if we do another round of growing the team at the start of Winter Quarter
#rhrt: 11/02/09 13:59 <cce891ed> i'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone: do not leave batteries connected to the robot.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:00 <tommost> Ah, yes, I forgot to shut it down.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:00 <cce891ed> you see, that's a slight issue since that battery's sitting at 8.5V right now
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:01 <tommost> Yikes.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:02 <tommost> I thought you would be in later that evening...
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:02 <cce891ed> no, i was planning on today since it should only have taken two hours to top that battery off again...
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:03 <tommost> Oh, I thought it would take a lot longer, since the computer was running for hours.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:03 <tommost> I did mention that I would be shutting it down remotely in this channel.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:03 <cce891ed> yeah, i guess i missed that part otherwise i would have been complaining more
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:06 <tommost> :-/
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:07 <tommost> Will it be usable by 5:15 today?
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:09 <Lemur2010> just currious, couldn't you make a 12V power supply to hook in to the battery connection to run the computer off the wall?
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:10 <tommost> That's the plan for the next robot, to use a computer PSU.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:10 <tommost> cce891ed: Could you set that up soonish?
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:11 <Lemur2010> good
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:11 <tommost> I really need to be able to mess with the sensors remotely to get stuff done.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:11 <Lemur2010> if we had the fast charger working, we could have it charged by the time you needed it Toast
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:11 <tommost> Otherwise I have to debug things in meetings, which feels like a waste of time.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 14:13 <tommost> It's much more efficient to be able to debug incrementally as I make changes.
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#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:26 <compuwizard123_> tommost__: what is the plan for todays meeting?
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:27 <compuwizard123_> i have stuff to do and going on crutches down to myers doesnt sound like fun :-/
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:27 <tommost> I was planning to take the robot out, but I'm not sure that the batteries will be ready.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:27 <tommost> Have you gotten anything done?
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:32 <compuwizard123_> tommost__: not really I haven't had time to really try anything else long week
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:33 <tommost> Yeah, I feel the same.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:33 <compuwizard123_> i was hoping to have crutches off last wed but doctor said at least 2 more weeks :-(
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:33 <tommost> :(
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:33 <tommost> Have you talked to Simon at all?
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:34 <compuwizard123_> um end of last week for a little bit. he hasnt really had time either from what i could tell. i should have time later this week though
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:34 <tommost> Okay, good.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:35 <tommost> In that case, I don't see any need for you to come to the meeting unless you want to see the robot moving (hopefully).  Just keep me up to date on what you're doing.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:35 <tommost> I would like to get some crude obstacle detection stuff working by the end of the quarter, ideally.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:35 <tommost> I explained what I was after to Simon; you should talk to him.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:37 <compuwizard123_> ok sounds good
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:38 <tommost> Generally I want to make a habit of taking out the robot regularly—it's testing, because otherwise we won't know if it breaks.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 16:38 <tommost> (For example, the MicroStrain power cable was broken so we had to fix it yesterday.)
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#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:12 <robominator> how did the meeting go tommost?
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:13 <tommost> Not so well.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:13 <tommost> There's something funky going on in the code that switches between navigators.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:13 <robominator> anyone show?
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:13 <tommost> So we drove it around a bit, but couldn't get it to go autonomous.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:14 <tommost> Yeah, Sierra and Andy.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:14 <robominator> I wish I'd gone
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:14 <tommost> Meh, it wasn't a terribly effective use of time.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:15 <robominator> neither was mine
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:16 <tommost> cce891ed: We really need to be able to run the computer 24/7 so that the computer can be accessed remotely.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:17 <robominator> let's jury rig it, we've got power supplies all over the place
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:18 <tommost> I was thinking that it should be possible to use the power supply that we were planning to use in the end anyway (one from the server).
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:18 <robominator> or.. can we plug it in to your tabletop supply long term?
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:18 <tommost> As an added bonus we'd get to check how well it works like that.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:18 <tommost> robominator: What tabletop supply?
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:19 <robominator> doesn't he have one for testing?
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:19 <tommost> The regulated power supply?  I don't believe it can supply enough current.
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:20 <robominator> it's a terrible idea, true
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:20 <robominator> but I want to know what it's rated
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:22 <kleinjt> unless it ended up in storage, we've got thet black box that spews 18V at unknown current, we we used to use with the pelican case
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:22 <kleinjt> I'll look around for it next time I'm in meyers
#rhrt: 11/02/09 18:23 <tommost> kleinjt: That's under the left electronics bench, IIRC.
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#rhrt: 11/03/09 02:55 <tommost__> http://www.basicinstructions.net/?p=1253
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#rhrt: 11/03/09 08:18 <Lemur2010> The official channel of the Rose-Hulman Robotics Team - www.rhrtrobotics.org | <Lemur> We are making progress.  Lets try to stay on schedule.
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#rhrt: 11/03/09 12:02 <kleinjt> hrm, are we missing the robot?
#rhrt: 11/03/09 12:26 <cce891ed> i lost it.  i'm sorry.
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#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:38 <Lemur2010> nick ar eyou there?
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:40 <tommost> Lemur2010: Typing wahlnj1 will likely give him an alert that his nick has been mentioned.
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:41 <Lemur2010> wahlnj1: are you going to have a meeting tomorrow?
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:41 <Lemur2010> tommost: does that really work?  Is it suppose to make my window blink?
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:42 <tommost> What IRC client are you using?
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:42 <tommost> I'm using Pidgin, and I think wahlnj1 is too, and it sets an urgency hint when your name is said in-channel.
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:42 <Lemur2010> Pidgion
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:42 <tommost> Yeah, it should.
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:42 <Lemur2010> try it to me,  i am going to deselect my window
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:42 <tommost> Lemur2010: If it doesn't you can set it to do so.
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:43 <Lemur2010> how?
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:43 <Lemur2010> cause it didn't
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:44 <Lemur2010> tommost: why do you keep changing colors?
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:44 <Lemur2010> n/m, i see why
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:44 <tommost> Pidgin highlights the lines where people say your nick.
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:44 <tommost> yeah.
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:44 <Lemur2010> so how do i set up the alert?
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:46 <Lemur2010> it says 'Flash window when new IMs are recieved
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:46 <Lemur2010> is checked
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:46 <Lemur2010> so w/e
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:46 <tommost> Ah, I guess it's a plugin that I have installed that does that.
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:46 <tommost> It's called "Message Notification".
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:46 <Lemur2010> wahlnj1: Nick, couldn't you pick an easier name to type?
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:47 <tommost> Lemur2010: You can tab-complete names.  Type "wa" and hit tab.
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:47 <Lemur2010> where do i get this plug in
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:47 <tommost> pidgin.im?
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:47 <Lemur2010> ah
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:47 <tommost> I'm not sure for Windows.
#rhrt: 11/03/09 15:47 <Lemur2010> its ok
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#rhrt: 11/03/09 16:36 <wahlnj1> yes, we will have a meeting
#rhrt: 11/03/09 16:36 <wahlnj1> I'll send out an email later
#rhrt: 11/03/09 16:37 <wahlnj1> we will make sure we have all the dimensions correct and then begin building
#rhrt: 11/03/09 16:37 <wahlnj1> please do not cut anything until then
#rhrt: 11/03/09 16:37 <tommost> What did you settle on for case mounting?
#rhrt: 11/03/09 16:39 <wahlnj1> U channel on the cases with an L bracket above an below
#rhrt: 11/03/09 16:39 <cce891ed> 
ACTION approves

#rhrt: 11/03/09 16:39 <tommost> Sounds good.
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#rhrt: 11/03/09 16:59 <Lemur2010> tommost: who is cce891ed
#rhrt: 11/03/09 16:59 <tommost> Auchter.
#rhrt: 11/03/09 17:00 <Lemur2010> oh
#rhrt: 11/03/09 17:00 <Lemur2010> how do you change your real name...mine says my real name is Purple
#rhrt: 11/03/09 17:01 <tommost> Accounts -> Lemur2010@irc.freenode.net -> Modify...
#rhrt: 11/03/09 17:02 <Lemur2010> it doesn't have a real name option
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#rhrt: 11/03/09 17:19 <robominator> lemur2010, did you measure the new width?
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#rhrt: 11/03/09 19:47 <tommost> wahlnj1: You should read the Kratos design report (Princeton's)—they report issues with BaneBots gearboxes.
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#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:43 <Lemur2010> wahlnj1: So i finished the Ls for you
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:43 <Lemur2010> wahlnj1: took me a little less than an hour to do by myself, including clean up
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:43 <wahlnj1> we were going to take them down to the shop where we could use a vice, but ok, thanks
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:44 <Lemur2010> i noticed the shop was closed
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:44 <Lemur2010> so i made my own rig
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:44 <Lemur2010> took a 2x4 and clamped a thin bar of aluminum to it holding 6 to 12 Ls at a time.
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:44 <wahlnj1> we laid out all the 890/20 we need to cut, we really don't have that many cuts to make
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:45 <wahlnj1> maybe we can cut tomorrow or Friday when the shop is open
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:45 <Lemur2010> i marked the center, puched it, used 1/8 then a 9/32
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:46 <Lemur2010> the L that we got from 80/20 used 9/32 hole
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:46 <Lemur2010> so i just matched it
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:46 <Lemur2010> i still havn't got a responce on the torque limit on the tricorners
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:46 <Lemur2010> i am going to do my own once i get back to my room
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:46 <Lemur2010> i measured the material
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:46 <Lemur2010> single shear
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:47 <Lemur2010> shounldn't be that hard
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:47 <wahlnj1> we should order the pillow blocks, bolts, and anything else we need
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:47 <wahlnj1> from McMaster Carr
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:47 <Lemur2010> yes, i agree
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:47 <Lemur2010> i sent you a link to the bolts we need
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:47 <Lemur2010> do you want to order it or do you want me to?
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:50 <wahlnj1> I can order, but I'd like to see if we can find a shock absorber solution from them first
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:51 <Lemur2010> the shock absorber wont change our pillow block or our bolts
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:51 <wahlnj1> no, but if we order them from McMaster we should order them all together to save on shipping
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:51 <Lemur2010> ah
#rhrt: 11/04/09 11:55 <Lemur2010> i think we could do a combination of http://www.mcmaster.com/#shock-absorbers/=4cwiak and http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/115/1198/=4cwiiz (shock absorber and spring).
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#rhrt: 11/04/09 14:14 <robominator> I like the heavy duty
#rhrt: 11/04/09 14:14 <robominator> we can use it in food processing
#rhrt: 11/04/09 14:16 <robominator> but, how do we interpret the energy cap?
#rhrt: 11/04/09 14:21 <robominator> lemur2010?
#rhrt: 11/04/09 14:22 <robominator> and the ratio between stroke and length seems to small for us, how did you plan on mounting these?
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#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:04 <robominator> lemur2010? did you get my question?
#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:10 <Lemur2010> robominator: yes
#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:11 <Lemur2010> i think the best way to mount the plate to have it pivot about the front end and put a pair of adjustable air springs in the  back
#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:11 <Lemur2010> the shock absorbers are too expensive
#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:13 <robominator> I can't visualize what you're saying at all
#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:13 <Lemur2010> i'll make a drawing
#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:15 <robominator> okay, i'll twiddle my thumbs
#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:16 <robominator> wahlnj, you around?
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#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:30 <tommost> Having fun?
#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:30 <Lemur2010> oodles
#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:30 <Lemur2010> i am working on an idea
#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:38 <Lemur2010> robominator: open the 80/20 catalog and go to page 179.  I am thikning of a pivot up front and mounting the spring in the back of the plate (one of each per side)
#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:40 <tommost> Did you guys start construction today?
#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:47 <Lemur2010> not really, Shop was closed
#rhrt: 11/04/09 17:49 <tommost> You're working on the suspension?
#rhrt: 11/04/09 18:03 <Lemur2010> yes
#rhrt: 11/04/09 18:03 <Lemur2010> the ideas would be easier to present in person
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#rhrt: 11/04/09 18:05 <Lemur2010> it is fairly strait forward and would cost under $100
#rhrt: 11/04/09 18:12 <Lemur2010> wait... try under $280
#rhrt: 11/04/09 18:12 <Lemur2010> i was looking in the wrong collum
#rhrt: 11/04/09 18:22 <robominator> exactly
#rhrt: 11/04/09 18:22 <robominator> that's why we threw those out
#rhrt: 11/04/09 18:23 <Lemur2010> i am still looking at other cheaper ideas
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#rhrt: 11/04/09 18:24 <robominator> yeah, aren't we all
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#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:19 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: do you happen to know the estimated robot weight?
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:19 <Lemur2010> just give it to me in hundreds
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:19 <Lemur2010> like 100, 200, 300
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:20 <Lemur2010> lbs
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:20 <Lemur2010> robominator: tell me if you know
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:32 <tommost> Last I heard 200 - 300.
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:32 <Lemur2010> i dont think our current robot weights 300
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:33 <Lemur2010> so the new one definatly wont
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:38 <wahlnj> weight about 200 lbs
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:39 <Lemur2010> ok
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:39 <Lemur2010> good
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:39 <wahlnj> 200-250
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:39 <Lemur2010> so i have a few specs for our springs
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:39 <Lemur2010> using the pivot suspension
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:39 <wahlnj> I like the front pivot rear spring idea, if we can get the parts to make it work cheaply
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:40 <Lemur2010> 80/20 have pivot parts that will cost $40 for the front
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:40 <Lemur2010> less than $40 maybe
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:41 <Lemur2010> since the front is pivoted, the springs in the back dont have to be guided, they can just be strait up attached.
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:42 <wahlnj> robominator: can you try to find another source for the caster, I've sent them two requests and haven't heard back
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:43 <wahlnj> except for an automated reply that says a representative would respond within 24 hours
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:55 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: I have a spring
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:55 <Lemur2010> http://www.mcmaster.com/#96485k141/=4d2oxk
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:57 <wahlnj> ok, that sounds about right
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:57 <Lemur2010> the plate is 5" wide right?
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:57 <wahlnj> I don't know that the size has been finalized yet
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:58 <Lemur2010> nope, 6.5
#rhrt: 11/04/09 19:59 <Lemur2010> someone didn't fix the plate
#rhrt: 11/04/09 20:03 <Lemur2010> the current plate size is big enough
#rhrt: 11/04/09 20:04 <Lemur2010> i think it could even be slimmed down
#rhrt: 11/04/09 20:15 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: So i think using the 8020 pivots and those springs, it would only add about $50
#rhrt: 11/04/09 20:16 <wahlnj> what is the 80/20 part number
#rhrt: 11/04/09 20:18 <Lemur2010> 2x(4181 [Pivot], 3501 [Bolt], 4172 [Pivot Arm]) and 2 springs.
#rhrt: 11/04/09 20:18 <Lemur2010> actually
#rhrt: 11/04/09 20:19 <Lemur2010> only 1 bolt assembally, it comes with 2
#rhrt: 11/04/09 20:23 <Lemur2010> does that make sense?
#rhrt: 11/04/09 20:24 <Lemur2010> 2x(4181 [Pivot], 4172 [Pivot Arm]) + 3501 [Bolt] and 2 springs.
#rhrt: 11/04/09 20:38 <Lemur2010> i posed the parts to the wiki
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#rhrt: 11/04/09 23:17 <robominator> wahnj, lemur2010, I was away, sorry
#rhrt: 11/04/09 23:17 <robominator> http://www.filmtools.com/8swpnca.html
#rhrt: 11/04/09 23:18 <robominator> http://www2.northerntool.com/casters/pneumatic-specialty-casters/item-189222.htm
#rhrt: 11/04/09 23:19 <robominator> http://www.materialflow.com/index.cfm?mf=browse.showPart&partClassID=5497&PName=6%20Inch%20Fully%20Pneumatic%20Casters
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#rhrt: 11/04/09 23:59 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: get the size we were planning on getting.  I say this because i want the vertical height we were planning to implement the suspension
#rhrt: 11/05/09 00:16 <wahlnj> the second one robominator posted seems good, but it is only 7.75 instead of 9.5 inches tall
#rhrt: 11/05/09 00:16 <wahlnj> we are mounting it an inch lower than we were originally planning though
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:09 <andy753421> tommost: as for the vision makefile, i'm not sure i ever really intended that to be used for much:/
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:09 <tommost> Yeah...
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:10 <tommost> The current build setup is kinda messy.
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:10 <tommost> In particular, we now need to build OpenCV manually.
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:10 <andy753421> eh?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:10 <tommost> There aren't packages for 2.0 yet.
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:11 <andy753421> for what it's worth, there are for gentoo ;)
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:12 <andy753421> heh, you might actually be able to use .a file for this..
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:13 <andy753421> e.g: `_vision.a: a.o b.o c.o etc.o' and then `_vision.so: vision.a' and `main: _vision.a'
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:13 <tommost> Eh?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:15 <andy753421> so it turns out it's a whole lot easier to test/profile/leakcheck opencv code by just compiling it to a binary and not linking it against python (at least I think so)
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:16 <andy753421> which means for each set of sources, you have to create a _foo.so and a standalone foo binary
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:17 <andy753421> which is why there was the OBJS variable in that makefile in the first place, because it was used in both the `main:' rule and the `%.so' rule, that way you didn't have to specify all the objects twice
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:17 <andy753421> but if you have multiple .so's you can use a single OBJS variable
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:18 <tommost> Yeah, I see.
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:19 <andy753421> i think normally people do something like `foo_OBJS=a.o b.o c.o' and then some hacks like `%.so: $(expand $%_OBJS)' (i'm not sure what the syntax for gnu make is for that, i think automake does it with m4 macros)
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:20 <andy753421> but i think you could use an .a rule instead of a variable
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:20 <andy753421> not sure if that answers the question or if i'm just rambling at this point :)
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:21 <tommost> I don't know what a .a is at all, actually.
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:21 <tommost> I will probably solve it by writing a more concrete makefile.
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:21 <andy753421> it's an archive, sort-of like a .so but not linked
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:22 <andy753421> i think they were used in place of .so before they had dynamic linking
#rhrt: 11/05/09 01:22 <tommost> Oh, yeah, I think they were mentioned in OS briefly.
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#rhrt: 11/05/09 08:33 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: the spring i chose was due to the fact that i thought i would get that extra inch
#rhrt: 11/05/09 08:34 <Lemur2010> i would still get it
#rhrt: 11/05/09 08:34 <Lemur2010> worse case: we get another spring
#rhrt: 11/05/09 08:36 <wahlnj> Lemur2010: you should talk to Trenton and either find a 9.5 in caster that we can actually buy, or a different spring
#rhrt: 11/05/09 08:38 <Lemur2010> i am still not sure how mounting the strings will affect the height of the front end.
#rhrt: 11/05/09 08:38 <Lemur2010> springs*
#rhrt: 11/05/09 08:43 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: get that spring, it is the best i can find right now.
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#rhrt: 11/05/09 08:57 <robominator> wahlnj, 9.5 is just so off standard
#rhrt: 11/05/09 08:57 <robominator> 10 or 8
#rhrt: 11/05/09 08:59 <robominator> good news, we get a discount if we order 50 or more
#rhrt: 11/05/09 09:00 <wahlnj> robominator: you should ask Colin which he'd prefer
#rhrt: 11/05/09 09:00 <wahlnj> the idea is just to get the chassis closer to level, not perfectly level, so it shouldn't matter too much
#rhrt: 11/05/09 09:05 <robominator> well, i have my review with christ, so i'll be afk, but if you see him, ask yourself
#rhrt: 11/05/09 09:06 <robominator> http://caster-parts.com/index.cfm?mf=browse.showPart&partClassID=5499&PName=10%20Inch%20Fully%20Pneumatic%20Casters
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#rhrt: 11/05/09 09:12 <wahlnj> robominator: the caster we were looking at first was a six in caster with an overall height of 9.5 in
#rhrt: 11/05/09 09:13 <wahlnj> the overall height is what we'd like to keep as close to 9.5 as possible
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#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:07 <robominator> in that case i've got 7 5/8
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:08 <robominator> or7 3/4
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:10 <robominator> it's that or 11 in
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:12 <robominator> wahlnj, lemur2010, is about 8 in or 11 in better?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:12 <robominator> for overall height
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:14 <Lemur2010> um
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:15 <robominator> um hmm
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:15 <Lemur2010> the front end will be about 5~6 inches off the ground
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:15 <Lemur2010> i think
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:15 <Lemur2010> wait
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:15 <Lemur2010> make that 7~8
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:15 <Lemur2010> possibly 9
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:17 <robominator> helpful
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:17 <Lemur2010> so 8 inches is better
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:17 <Lemur2010> i havn't done the geometry of the front end yet
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:17 <Lemur2010> would you like me to?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:18 <robominator> please, with a cherry on top
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:19 <robominator> http://caster-parts.com/index.cfm?mf=browse.showPart&partClassID=5497&PName=6%20Inch%20Fully%20Pneumatic%20Casters
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:19 <robominator> it has capacity of 250 lbs, little under eight in of height, costs 10.80 for a swivel
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:19 <robominator> and is pneumatic
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:19 <robominator> i've given you this site twice, because it looks legit and give real prices
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:20 <robominator> they also have the one with a height of 11 in
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:26 <robominator> wait, how about this:
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:26 <robominator> http://www.globalindustrial.com/c/material-handling/casters/pneumatic?infoParam.campaignId=T9A&gclid=CImz08-V9J0CFRPyDAodwXtGKg
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:27 <robominator> i like the color on this one
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:27 <robominator> wahlnj, lemur2010?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:27 <robominator> and marsupial boy, pick a name without numbers
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:28 <Lemur2010> ok
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:28 <Lemur2010> so i did the math
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:29 <robominator> the specs on globalindustrial kick ass
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:30 <Lemur2010> from the bottom of the frame, using a range of reasonable plate sizes (6~6.5") i got a total height of 10.5" to 11.9"
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:31 <robominator> my new favorite site has a 12-1/2
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:31 <robominator> or a 9-3/4
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:32 <Lemur2010> it will be easier to make the height more towards 12" than 9
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:33 <Lemur2010> you said you had an 11" caster right?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:36 <robominator> http://caster-parts.com/index.cfm?mf=browse.showPart&partClassID=5498&PName=8%20Inch%20Fully%20Pneumatic%20Casters
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:39 <Lemur2010> robominator: wahlnj: i want to order the springs and the pivots from 8020.  for the mounting plate, i was thinking that 1" should be open in the front for the pivot mounting, and the pillow block should be snug up against the back of the plate.  I will mount the springs to the plate in the back, and to a cross bar on the robot.
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:39 <robominator> draw
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:39 <Lemur2010> robominator: that looks like what we want
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:40 <robominator> cheep too
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:40 <Lemur2010> i have a drawing in my room
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:40 <Lemur2010> come look
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:40 <robominator> but eee hw
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:40 <robominator> :(
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:40 <robominator> maybe tonight
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:40 <Lemur2010> ok
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:40 <robominator> ;)
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:40 <wahlnj> Lemur2010: the spring you showed me before was from McMaster, did you find one from 10/20 that's better?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:40 <Lemur2010> 10/20
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:40 <Lemur2010> ?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:41 <wahlnj> 80/20
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:41 <Lemur2010> no
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:41 <Lemur2010> they dont do spring
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:41 <Lemur2010> the one i showed you from mcmaster carr is great
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:41 <wahlnj> (10:39:11 AM) Lemur2010: robominator: wahlnj: i want to order the springs and the pivots from 8020.
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:41 <robominator> beat me to it
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:42 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: did you look at the pivot i was talking about?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:43 <wahlnj> no, I haven't had a chance
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:44 <Lemur2010> in the catalog, the pivot is page 183 and the L is page 185
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:44 <wahlnj> are we sure about the springs that we want?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:44 <Lemur2010> 80%
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:44 <wahlnj> when will we be ready to order?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:44 <Lemur2010> the spring doesn't have a washer on the end, we will have to attach one ourselves
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:45 <robominator> :(
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:45 <Lemur2010> i couldn't find any that had one
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:45 <robominator> well, we can teach the freshman welding
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:47 <Lemur2010> not on the springs
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:47 <Lemur2010> but still a good idea
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:47 <robominator> how were you going to attach them?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:48 <Lemur2010> weld, i was just saying that welding the washer on is not easy, but we can use it to demonstrate how to weld
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:49 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: i am confident enough about my parts
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:49 <wahlnj> can you order the bolts, springs and pillow blocks from McMaster then?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:50 <Lemur2010> what about the mounting plate?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:50 <Lemur2010> we will need to order that too
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:51 <wahlnj> I thought we were going to get that from the shop
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:51 <Lemur2010> i dont know if they have it in the shop
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:51 <Lemur2010> ask mike about that, i will wait untill tomorrow to order
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:51 <wahlnj> can you check, and if not order that too?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:51 <wahlnj> I won't have any time until next week
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:52 <robominator> 
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#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:52 <Lemur2010> ok
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:52 <Lemur2010> now the bolts for mounting the pillow blocks to the pate can be picked up at ace for all i care
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:52 <Lemur2010> do you guys agree?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:53 <wahlnj> yeah, and we only need a few of them
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:53 <wahlnj> if we got them from McMaster we'd probably get 50 or 100
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:54 <Lemur2010> yeah, and we only need 4
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:55 <Lemur2010> the holes are 7/16, so i think 7/16 bolts would do great
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:55 <Lemur2010> i know we can get the shim material from the shop
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:55 <Lemur2010> 1/16 sheet metal
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:56 <robominator> so, all that's left is the 3u and the final mast design
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:58 <wahlnj> do we all agree on the 11" caster from caster-parts.com?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:58 <Lemur2010> if we could find 1/16 thick washers that would work best
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:58 <Lemur2010> they have them on mcmaster
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:58 <Lemur2010> but it is $3.75/box of 105
#rhrt: 11/05/09 10:58 <wahlnj> they probably have them at Ace too
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:00 <robominator> 
ACTION agree

#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:01 <robominator> robot is taller than we thought
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:01 <robominator> how are we on spec?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:01 <Lemur2010> it will be fine
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:01 <Lemur2010> we are working on level ground
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:01 <wahlnj> we'll probably have to cut the mast down
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:03 <robominator> :/
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:05 <Lemur2010> brb, laundry
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:06 <robominator> you guys want to do some work 9&10 th hour tomorrow?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:06 <robominator> grab the horizontal, and just power through all the t slot?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:06 <wahlnj> I have class 9th and will be gone 10th
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:07 <wahlnj> but you can cut the 1010 stock if you want
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:07 <wahlnj> there are only a few pieces that need to be cut and they are all marked
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:07 <robominator> that's what i'm talking about
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:08 <robominator> I might grab a couple of the inexperienced and power through all that
#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:08 <wahlnj> Lemur2010: if you order the McMaster stuff this morning it should ship today and we'll get it early next week
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#rhrt: 11/05/09 11:40 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: i can possibly get to some today
#rhrt: 11/05/09 12:21 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: ordered
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#rhrt: 11/05/09 14:24 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: so i got all but the 28" cut
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#rhrt: 11/05/09 15:35 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: we should be ready to assemble wednesday
#rhrt: 11/05/09 15:39 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: what needs to be done by the end of Saturday - cut the pair of 28" bars, tap the ends of the 19", the 28", and 4 of the 13.75" bars with 1/4-20, 1" deep
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#rhrt: 11/05/09 18:35 <Lemur2010> robominator: how is stats going?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 18:40 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: did you read all the stuff i said to you?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 18:42 <Lemur2010> tommost_ who used the robot last?
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#rhrt: 11/05/09 18:55 <wahlnj> Lemur2010: I did now
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#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:00 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: awsome
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:01 <Lemur2010> reaction?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:01 <wahlnj> did you order the parts from McMaster?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:02 <Lemur2010> yes
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:02 <Lemur2010> they shipped out today
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:02 <Lemur2010> we should have them by monday
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:02 <Lemur2010> tuesday incase something funny happens
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:02 <wahlnj> awesome, can you send me the receipt?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:03 <Lemur2010> i already had it sent to the treasurer
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:03 <Lemur2010> but i will forward you a copy
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:03 <wahlnj> thanks
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:05 <Lemur2010> sent
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:05 <wahlnj> did you find material in the shop for the mounting plate?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:05 <Lemur2010> yes
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:05 <Lemur2010> i told mike i would come in tomorrow to cut it to size
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:06 <Lemur2010> it is like a 4' by 3' plate with a chunk missing
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:06 <Lemur2010> 1/8"
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:06 <Lemur2010> tick
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:06 <Lemur2010> thick*
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:27 <Lemur2010> robominator: i am planning on going down to the shop 2nd & 3rd, lunch 4th, and any touch up work 7th
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:32 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: the mounting plate: 7" by 21"?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 19:32 <Lemur2010> or 6.5" by 21?
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#rhrt: 11/05/09 20:59 <robominator> lemur2010, I guess i'll joint you
#rhrt: 11/05/09 21:00 <robominator> join
#rhrt: 11/05/09 21:00 <cce891ed> heh heh
#rhrt: 11/05/09 21:00 <robominator> did you mention to wahlnj the extra bars you cut?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 21:02 <robominator> and wahlnj, how about you delegate some responsibility regarding the asecay
#rhrt: 11/05/09 21:42 <Lemur2010> ouyay eekspay igpay atlinlay?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 21:43 <Lemur2010> robominator: obominatorray: i idn'tday inkthay atthay ouyay ereway ultilingualmay.
#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:27 <robominator> Itway isway eryvay interestingway atthay ouyay ouldway ingbray
#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:27 <robominator> atthay upway, itway urnstay outway atthay I'veway eenbay
#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:27 <robominator> educatedway inway anymay anguageslay, ethay eastlay amongway
#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:27 <robominator> emthay igpay atinlay, Iway ancay urvivesay onway ymay anishspay
#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:27 <robominator> , avehay akentay apanesejay, astlay away ayday onway ymay
#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:27 <robominator> italianway, andway ancay eetgray andway ankthay inway away
#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:27 <robominator> alfhay ozenday anguageslay. Oughthay atway isthay ointpay, iway
#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:27 <robominator> amway ellway ehindbay onway ymay englishway educationway, Iway
#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:27 <robominator> anplay otay ectifyray isthay ortcomingshay inway ethay omingcay
#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:27 <robominator> onthsmay.
#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:28 <cce891ed> ... i hate you
#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:37 <tommost> me too
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#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:59 <Lemur2010> jboticsource2: you missed it
#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:59 <Lemur2010> trenton was awsome
#rhrt: 11/05/09 22:59 <jboticsource2> what did he do?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:00 <Lemur2010> read the log
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:01 <jboticsource2> oh wow
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:01 <jboticsource2> so he was
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:01 <jboticsource2> cool
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:05 <Lemur2010> jboticsource2: we are going to start assembling the new frame
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:05 <Lemur2010> next week
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:06 <Lemur2010> we have a suspension
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:07 <Lemur2010> very simple and cost under $50
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:09 <jboticsource2> id like to see pictures of design files if possible
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:09 <jboticsource2> just because i am curious
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:09 <Lemur2010> well, i dont have the suspension drawn up digitally
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:09 <jboticsource2> CAD fail
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:09 <jboticsource2> what is it?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:09 <jboticsource2> in words
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:10 <Lemur2010> you are aware of the 1/8" thick plate the motors are mounting to right?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:10 <jboticsource2>  yes
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:10 <Lemur2010> so i am mounting the front to the frame using a pair of 80/20 live pivots
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:11 <jboticsource2> so its a simple lever kind of suspension ?
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:13 <Lemur2010> the back is attached by 2 springs to a cross bar
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:13 <jboticsource2> yea thats what i had imagined from what u said
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:13 <Lemur2010> the springs are standard coil compression springs
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:14 <Lemur2010> i plan to weld washers to each end of the springs to make for easy mounting
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:14 <jboticsource2> cute
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:14 <jboticsource2> but still as epic as http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs106.snc1/4600_512812941883_29202764_30500802_4800590_n.jpg
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#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:15 <Lemur2010> yeah, we have more displacement so less chance for bottoming out
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:15 <Lemur2010> but less springs
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:15 <Lemur2010> so i guess it works out
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:16 <jboticsource2> its eposity is lower
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:16 <Lemur2010> a pair of springs at about k=100 lb/inch
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:16 <jboticsource2> ok
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:16 <Lemur2010> the spring is 6" uncompressed
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:17 <jboticsource2> a suspension will def help
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:17 <Lemur2010> lets hope
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:17 <jboticsource2> that will be cool to see in action
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:17 <Lemur2010> i'll take pictures
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:17 <jboticsource2> thanks
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:18 <Lemur2010> time to tun in..natalie is going to bed
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:18 <Lemur2010> night all
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:18 <jboticsource2> night, thanks for the update :)
#rhrt: 11/05/09 23:21 <Lemur2010> lol
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#rhrt: 11/06/09 11:41 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: So... i got a package today
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#rhrt: 11/06/09 15:14 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: i am going to try and re-cut the plate starting at 4pm (hopefully)
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#rhrt: 11/07/09 12:27 <cce891ed> wow, mechanical team++
#rhrt: 11/07/09 12:27 <cce891ed> i'm impressed.
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#rhrt: 11/07/09 13:27 <Lemur2010> cce891ed: so i assume you stopped by?
#rhrt: 11/07/09 13:33 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: looks like we need more nuts.  i found them on e-bay for $8 for a package of 50, but the shipping is $9 alone.  ask our supplier what they can get them for.
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#rhrt: 11/08/09 11:20 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: I have already looked up and marked a pair of springs for if the robot is closer to 150lbs than 225
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#rhrt: 11/08/09 19:47 <tommost__> compuwizard123_: Did you get down that stuff from the whiteboard?
#rhrt: 11/08/09 20:48 <compuwizard123_>  tommost__ yea i got it all down
#rhrt: 11/08/09 20:49 <compuwizard123_> tommost__: ill be putting it on wiki either tonight or tomorrow morning
#rhrt: 11/08/09 20:49 <tommost__> Okay, great.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 20:49 <compuwizard123_> tommost__: tomorrow at meeting lets make that checkerboard thing
#rhrt: 11/08/09 20:50 <compuwizard123_> and get whatever else needed together for taking pics on wednesday
#rhrt: 11/08/09 20:50 <tommost__> There's a PDF in the repository of the checkerboard.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 20:50 <tommost__> I may just do that tonight to make sure it has time to dry.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 20:53 <compuwizard123_> ok sounds good
#rhrt: 11/08/09 21:31 <tommost> I've glued it halfway.  It's sitting under the printer in F225.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 21:36 <tommost> It started getting non-flat, so I pressed it.
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#rhrt: 11/08/09 22:44 <compuwizard123_> tommost__: where would you like me to put the stuff from today on the wiki?
#rhrt: 11/08/09 22:45 <tommost> That TODO page I showed you earlier.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 22:45 <compuwizard123_> ok
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:02 <compuwizard123_> tommost__: i started a google calendar to organize calendar stuff http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=mtmev4riuvoaidte0dcst1kce4%40group.calendar.google.com
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:03 <tommost> 
ACTION sighs

#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:03 <tommost> Okay.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:03 <tommost> Could you add me as a collaborator?  tommost@gma...
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:03 <cce891ed> heh heh heh
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:03 <tommost> cce891ed: Eh?
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:04 <compuwizard123_> tommost__: sure one sec
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:04 <compuwizard123_> done
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:05 <tommost> Okay, thanks.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:06 <cce891ed> you resisted gcal for the quadruplex project, at least initially
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:08 <compuwizard123_> im a fan of google integration hence my hs robotics site...http://sites.google.com/site/hthsrobotics
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:11 <tommost> cce891ed: That's because it is buggy in my experience.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:14 <compuwizard123_> trac doesnt have a nice calendar thing does it?
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:15 <tommost> Not by default.  You can probably get one as a plug-in.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:15 <compuwizard123_> ok maybe ill look into that at some point
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:16 <compuwizard123_> tommost__:  will there be a meeting on mon 11/16? since you leave 11/15
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:17 <tommost> It's finals week; I wasn't planning on it.  There can't be an official meeting, but you can hold an informal one if you like.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:18 <tommost> You can send e-mails to the mailing list at arc@mailman.rose-hul... to announce it.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:18 <tommost> We created a software-specific list a while back, but I haven't gotten to adding people to that.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:18 <tommost> We can use that for discussion.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:21 <compuwizard123_> arc sends to everyone in robotics?
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:21 <tommost> Yeah.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:21 <tommost> ARC == aerial robotics club :)
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:21 <compuwizard123_> wow legacy much?
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:21 <tommost> Yeah...
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:22 <compuwizard123_> i updated the todo page
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:22 <compuwizard123_> i just put most of the stuff at the bottom
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:22 <compuwizard123_> it may need to be moved but for now at least its up there
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:22 <tommost> Okay.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:22 <tommost> I'll look at it later (homework now).
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:24 <compuwizard123_> sounds good
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#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:37 <robominator> compuwizard123_, can I get a collaborator add also?
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:37 <robominator> ilikesugaryes@gmail.com
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:38 <tommost> Wow.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:38 <cce891ed> indeed.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:38 <tommost> robominator++
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:39 <robominator> it was in high school, wanted something easy to remember and communicate
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:40 <cce891ed> most of us chose our names for that
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:41 <robominator> that explains your current nick
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:41 <tommost> robominator++\
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:44 <compuwizard123_> robominator: sure...wow @ email
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:45 <compuwizard123_> robominator: done
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:48 <robominator> xiexie ni
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:49 <cce891ed> password?
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:49 <cce891ed> oh, that's how that's transliterated.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:49 <cce891ed> i never say the ni part.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:49 <cce891ed> i'm like the opposite of the Knights Who Say Ni
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:50 <cce891ed> xie-xie has always sufficed.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:50 <robominator> well, I was in high ranking company when I picked it up
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:51 <robominator> multi billion rmb individuals
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:51 <cce891ed> yeah, so was i when i picked this up
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:51 <cce891ed> well, individual
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:52 <robominator> it sounds like we need to swap stories some time, but if we go further off topic tom will get mad
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:53 <cce891ed> probably.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:54 <tommost> I've just been trying to figure out what you're talking about.
#rhrt: 11/08/09 23:54 <tommost> And then remembering to continue hating the tabular environment.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:02 <robominator> tommost, translate yourself for the me's and i promise I won't use mandarin
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:02 <tommost> Uh... no?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:03 <robominator> but my usual tactic of googleing whatever you say didn't work this time :{(
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:04 <cce891ed> robominator: keywords: latex tabular
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:05 <robominator> gratzi
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:14 <compuwizard123_> robominator: that was chinese?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:15 <robominator> xie xie ni is formal thank you
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:15 <robominator> in 'modified' pinyin
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:15 <robominator> gratzi is bastardized italian
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:15 <cce891ed> gah, so many transliteration schemes
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:15 <cce891ed> jaja, grazie
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:15 <compuwizard123_> ill take your word for it...ill stick w/ english for now
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:16 <cce891ed> nein, kein englisch
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:16 <robominator> ?no habla ingles?
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#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:37 <robominator> hey, cce891ed, what's the other 2u for if all power distribution and motor control are in one
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:38 <tommost> They're not, IIRC.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:38 <tommost> Power distribution is in one, everything else in the other.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:38 <robominator> that's opposite of what was discussed today
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:39 <tommost> Really?  Have things changed?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:39 <robominator> kleinjt, back me up
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:40 <robominator> i'll get my answer tommorrow I guess
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:40 <tommost> Also, someone needs to buy the 3U.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:40 <robominator> huh, you think
#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:40 <tommost> 
ACTION looks at cce891ed

#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:41 <robominator> 
ACTION also looks

#rhrt: 11/09/09 00:41 <robominator> 
ACTION then gestures

robominator: 11/09/09 00:43 >< QUIT : "when you leave, give an indication please"
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#rhrt: 11/09/09 06:06 <cce891ed> it makes wiring cleaner if the motor controller are in the power distro box.  if it really becomes a problem with space, i'll consider moving them to the other box.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 06:10 <tommost> Oh, okay.
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#rhrt: 11/09/09 07:09 <tommost> wahlnj: How much space is there for the monitor?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 07:09 <tommost> I've put a few possibilities on this page: https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/igvc/monitor
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#rhrt: 11/09/09 10:14 <robominator> cce891ed, you didn't answer my question :{(
#rhrt: 11/09/09 10:14 <robominator> what's in the other box?
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#rhrt: 11/09/09 11:06 <wahlnj> tommost: you have 12 in horizontally and as much as you need vertically (up to five feet)
#rhrt: 11/09/09 11:13 <tommost> Okay.
tommost: 11/09/09 11:24 >< QUIT : "rthc: you're worse than kleinjt"
#rhrt: 11/09/09 12:58 <compuwizard123_> tommost__: kalman filter video here http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8163921940068516775#
#rhrt: 11/09/09 13:55 <tommost_> Cool.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 13:56 <tommost_> compuwizard123_: Coudl you send out a reminder e-mail to arc@mailman.rose-...?  I am having e-mail issues (mailbox full, Exchange refusing to delete messages).  Be sure to include 5:15 p.m., M137, etc.  And mention that a Wednesday meeting is planned.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 14:50 <tommost_> compuwizard123_: Ping )))
#rhrt: 11/09/09 14:54 <tommost_> Okay, I think I've fixed my e-mail, so I'll sent the notification.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:03 <compuwizard123_> tommost_: pong?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:04 <compuwizard123_> ok
#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:05 <wahlnj> the robotics room is M133, M 137 is the Myers Presentation Room
#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:19 <tommost_> ...
#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:19 <tommost_> I've been sending out the wrong room in e-mails for quite a while, then.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:19 <compuwizard123_> there have been other emails?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:20 <tommost_> I send most of the meeting reminder e-mails.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:20 <compuwizard123_> must be emails i dont get? lol
#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:27 <tommost_> compuwizard123_: Are you not on the mailing list?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:27 <compuwizard123_> 
ACTION doesnt know

#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:30 <tommost_> Did you get an e-mail a few minutes ago?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:31 <tommost_> Titled "Software meeting today at 5:15"?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:50 <compuwizard123_> nope
#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:53 <tommost_> What's your Rose username:
#rhrt: 11/09/09 15:53 <tommost_> ?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 16:01 <compuwizard123_> risdenkj
#rhrt: 11/09/09 16:36 <tommost_> Ah, I remembered it right.  Cool.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 16:53 <cce891ed> huzzah: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/a2icy/does_anyone_have_any_experience_using_the_kalman/
#rhrt: 11/09/09 17:10 <tommost_> Niiiice.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 17:11 <tommost_> Woo!  Time to take some pictures!
#rhrt: 11/09/09 17:12 <wahlnj> tommost_: let me know when/where I can access the pictures once you take them
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#rhrt: 11/09/09 18:38 <wahlnj> I am going to order the caster
#rhrt: 11/09/09 18:38 <wahlnj> CA6-8PN from this page: http://caster-parts.com/index.cfm?mf=browse.showPart&partClassID=5498&PName=8%20Inch%20Fully%20Pneumatic%20Casters
#rhrt: 11/09/09 18:38 <wahlnj> any objections?
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#rhrt: 11/09/09 18:45 <tommost__> wahlnj: \\rhitrobotics.org\rhrt\pics\09-10\data
#rhrt: 11/09/09 18:46 <tommost__> What did you want to do with them?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 18:55 <wahlnj> show some people pictures now that we have something to show
#rhrt: 11/09/09 18:56 <tommost__> Oh, these were data pictures.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 18:56 <tommost__> I have people pictures too; give me a little while to upload them.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 18:56 <tommost__> (I'm off-campus.)
#rhrt: 11/09/09 18:56 <wahlnj> no problem, there's no hurry
#rhrt: 11/09/09 21:19 <wahlnj> tommost_: do you have the password to the robot's facebook?
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#rhrt: 11/09/09 21:27 <robominator> wahlnj, have we ordered second charder and 3u?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 21:29 <wahlnj> I have requested a quote on the caster
#rhrt: 11/09/09 21:30 <wahlnj> I did not know we were getting another charger, I thought we decided we bought that at the competition
#rhrt: 11/09/09 21:40 <robominator> what does that have to do with anything?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 21:40 <robominator> cce891ed, you still need a second charger, right?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 21:41 <wahlnj> unless you can get one for $0.37, we don't have money in the budget
#rhrt: 11/09/09 21:51 <robominator> that slush fund might be coming soon
#rhrt: 11/09/09 21:55 <robominator> do we have anything left in the frame budget?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 22:00 <wahlnj> if we really need to, we can find a way to pay for it, but I was under the impression that we had all the chargers we needed
#rhrt: 11/09/09 22:06 <wahlnj> maybe cce891ed or kleinjt can enlighten us
#rhrt: 11/09/09 22:17 <robominator> if they respond to anything
#rhrt: 11/09/09 22:18 <kleinjt> cce891ed
#rhrt: 11/09/09 22:19 <kleinjt> I'm under the impression that we have all the chargers we need, but cce891ed would know.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 22:19 <robominator> oh, okay... is he making the one charge both batteries at once?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 22:35 <cce891ed> no, we currently only have one charger.  we need another.
#rhrt: 11/09/09 22:41 <wahlnj> cce891ed: can you either have someone on the electronics team find a 3u case, or tell us exactly what you need?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 22:41 <wahlnj> we would like to have the 3u case before break
#rhrt: 11/09/09 22:42 <cce891ed> software or electronics can do that
#rhrt: 11/09/09 22:43 <wahlnj> sounds good, I think that's the only big physical thing that we haven't ordered yet
#rhrt: 11/09/09 22:45 <robominator> besides the previously mentioned charger
#rhrt: 11/09/09 22:46 <wahlnj> I was thinking of things that are important to the physical structure, but yeah we need a charger and monitor as well
#rhrt: 11/09/09 22:51 <robominator> and our remaining budget at this point says what?
#rhrt: 11/09/09 23:43 <wahlnj> I don't know exactly, I'll have to talk to Ryan about it
#rhrt: 11/09/09 23:57 <robominator> cce891ed, besides the charger, is there anything else that you don't own that is going in the cases?
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#rhrt: 11/10/09 10:50 <robominator> cce891ed, you have a funny habit of not answering my questions
#rhrt: 11/10/09 10:51 <robominator> for planning purposes, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'RE PEOPLE NEED FOR INSIDE THE CASE?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 10:52 <robominator> *your
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#rhrt: 11/10/09 11:39 <tommost_> wahlnj: Yeah, I have the password.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 11:55 <cce891ed> robominator: yes, some other things
#rhrt: 11/10/09 11:56 <tommost> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811165083&cm_re=3u_case-_-11-165-083-_-Product
#rhrt: 11/10/09 11:57 <tommost> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811165100&cm_re=3u_case-_-11-165-100-_-Product
#rhrt: 11/10/09 11:58 <tommost> These both look like short ones.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 11:58 <tommost> But you should check the measurements.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 12:03 <tommost> Somebody should order one of those.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 12:12 <tommost> Also, what else is in the budget to buy from Newegg?
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#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:09 <wahlnj> the only other things in the budget from newegg were the hard drive and memory card
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:10 <tommost> Okay, we have both of those.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:10 <tommost> Did you check the size of those cases?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:10 <tommost> (I'm wondering if they're shorter than our current ones.)
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:10 <wahlnj> I think the cases we have now are 26 in long, and the ones on newegg are 20.8
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:10 <tommost> Okay.  That won't be a problem, will it?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:11 <wahlnj> not mechanically
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:11 <tommost> I'm certain the computer will fit; it's a mini-ATX.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:11 <tommost> cce891ed: Can you check those cases are okay?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:11 <tommost> They're just the cheapest ones on Newegg.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:11 <wahlnj> I'm assuming that case will also have the power supply and solid state drive
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:12 <tommost> Yeah.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:12 <cce891ed> obviously don't get the second case, it's $40 more because it comes with a psu
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:12 <tommost> Okay then.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:12 <tommost> Get the first one.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:12 <tommost> Go!
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:12 <tommost> :)
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:13 <wahlnj> I'll order it when cce891ed gives the word
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:13 <cce891ed> it's fine with me; have we checked any other places beside newegg?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:13 <wahlnj> I don't think so
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:13 <tommost> Last time I tried googling I couldn't find anything cheaper.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:13 <cce891ed> though that seems a decent price...
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:14 <wahlnj> I didn't find anything cheaper on tigerdirect
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:15 <tommost> I'm not seeing anything on Froogle.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:15 <tommost> Here's a random drawer: http://www.sbhcorp.com/scripts/homeViewItem-2210.html
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:15 <cce891ed> if we have the cash for it, i'd say do it
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:16 <wahlnj> the newegg case or the drawer?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:16 <cce891ed> newegg
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:16 <tommost> Yeah, I can't find anything better.  Go for it.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:16 <wahlnj> we can probably take it out of frame mounting hardware, which still has quite a bit in it, but I'll have to check with Ryan
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:17 <wahlnj> I should be able to order it tonight
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:17 <tommost> Okay, good.  And newegg will ship it pretty quickly, too.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:18 <wahlnj> yeah, I'd like to have the case, caster, 80/20 parts, and whatever else we need before break
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:19 <cce891ed> 
ACTION anxiously awaits the end of this quarter so he can work on robotics

#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:20 <wahlnj> cce891ed: how close is electronics to being able to populate the cases and making the new robot function electronically?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:21 <cce891ed> we can get it working at its current level pretty quickly, i think (with the understanding that it will be a wiring nightmare until we get some other things made)
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:22 <cce891ed> really once you give us the go-ahead to be able to have the robot non-functioning for a week, we can do it
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:22 <tommost> The software team is planning on it being non-functional for two weeks starting the third week of next quarter.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:22 <tommost> We have a calendar and stuff.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:22 <wahlnj> cce891ed: ok, good to hear
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:23 <cce891ed> it might be better to move it a bit closer to the start of the quarter even, if that meshes with mech
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:23 <tommost> http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=mtmev4riuvoaidte0dcst1kce4%40group.calendar.google.com
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:23 <tommost> cce891ed: That would be fine.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:23 <wahlnj> tommost: I think we were planning on starting first or second week of winter quarter
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:24 <tommost> Yeah, look at that calendar.  "Moving to New Frame" is from the 6th to the 18th.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:24 <tommost> Basically, we're not counting on a working robot until after winter break.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:24 <cce891ed> you should invite me to that calendar
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:25 <tommost> wahlnj: We also need you to come up with some sort of temporary mounting system for the camera for before you get the steadicam working; otherwise we'll be stuck in a nasty place when you're building it.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:25 <wahlnj> ok, mechanically we'll probably start moving stuff pretty soon after Thanksgiving break
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:25 <tommost> compuwizard123_: Could you add wahlnj and cce891ed (auchtemm) to the calendar?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:26 <wahlnj> tommost: ok, we can probably mount it directly to the frame like we did two years ago
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:26 <tommost> Yeah, just as long as it isn't damaged and it is pointed down.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:27 <tommost> cce891ed: Also, I really need to be able to access the computer remotely over break.  *Really* need it.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:29 <tommost> (Including sensors.)
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:29 <cce891ed> ok, which sensors?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:29 <tommost> The camera, MicroStrain, GPS, and motor controllers.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:29 <cce891ed>  ok, that shouldn't be a problem.  remind me sunday.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:30 <tommost> I won't be here Sunday.  Are we having a meeting?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:32 <wahlnj> cce891ed: how much will a battery charger cost?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:33 <tommost> wahlnj, cce891ed, compuwizard123_: I've created an agenda page for next Sunday's meeting: https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/meetings/2009-11-15  Please add things you think need to happen.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:34 <cce891ed> $40?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:34 <cce891ed> erm $50?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:34 <tommost> cce891ed: Could you find one online and/or bring one back after break?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:34 <tommost> It would be nice to have fast charging for the batteries now.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:37 <cce891ed> we have a fast charger, it's just less intuitive to use right now...
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:38 <tommost> I meant both of them at the same time.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:39 <cce891ed> indeed
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:39 <tommost> At the moment you have to guess whether the computer battery or the motor battery is more discharged.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:39 <cce891ed> or, you know, use a DMM ;)
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:43 <tommost> I'm lazy.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:43 <tommost> wahlnj: I updated RATT's Facebook photo.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:45 <wahlnj> great, and hopefully in a couple weeks we can update it again
#rhrt: 11/10/09 16:58 <tommost> cce891ed: You should update the Electronics team members: https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/membership
#rhrt: 11/10/09 17:16 <tommost> I updated (actually, wrote) the legal page at http://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/legal
#rhrt: 11/10/09 17:18 <tommost> I didn't mention anything about hardware designs; I'm not sure what applies there.
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#rhrt: 11/10/09 18:24 <robominator> so, any word on mini fridge?
robominator: 11/10/09 18:44 >< QUIT : "Leaving."
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#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:18 <tommost> We should take a new team picture for the web site.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:24 <tommost> Er, after we get team t-shirts.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:31 <wahlnj> I'll talk to Ricky about that
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:32 <wahlnj> I'm ordering the case now
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:36 <cce891ed> yay
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:36 <wahlnj> we apparently get a free RAID controller with that case
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:36 <cce891ed> link
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:37 <wahlnj> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132004
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:37 <tommost> That's pretty obsolete.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:37 <cce891ed> heh, yeah.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:38 <cce891ed> wow, it's got the footprint for a dip package on the pcb.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:38 <tommost> Heh... evolution, I guess.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:39 <wahlnj> well it doesn't look like I can remove it so we're getting it free
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:39 <tommost> Hmm, I hope we're not paying shipping for it.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:40 <tommost> Are you shipping it to yourself or the team CM?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:40 <wahlnj> shipping on the case is $25
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:40 <wahlnj> I was going to do my CM since I don't even know the team's
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:40 <tommost> CM 5000.  But yours is fine.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:40 <tommost> I think the team's will just go to me.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:41 <tommost> Oh, you know what else you could pick up?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:41 <tommost> A Bluetooth adapter.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:41 <kleinjt> and a wiimote?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:42 <tommost> I don't think we have money for a Wiimote in the budget, actually.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:42 <tommost> Which is annoying.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:42 <tommost> But we can get it cheaper from dealextreme anyway.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:43 <wahlnj> I'm getting ready to checkout, so let me know if I should add anything else
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:44 <kleinjt> if we wanted to do it cheaper, we could be able to plug a wii nunchuck into the wireless kill switch
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:44 <kleinjt> those are only $11 each
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:45 <tommost> That would be really cool, actually.  I don't like the way we have to redo the pairing process each time with the Wiimote.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:45 <kleinjt> er.. once the can bus is up anyways
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:45 <tommost> I think the CAN bus being up will be pretty much always.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:45 <cce891ed> i think he means initially
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:45 <cce891ed> 
ACTION glares at tommost 

#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:45 <kleinjt> 
ACTION glares at cce891ed 

#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:45 <tommost> What?  You want me to write that software?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:46 <cce891ed> yes, eventually.  soonish.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:48 <tommost> from serial import Serial; s = Serial('/dev/ttyUSB0'); s.write('T%08x%d%s\r' % (id, len(mesg), mesg)); s.close()
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:48 <tommost> What now?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:49 <cce891ed> for one, i doubt that will work (what is mesg?)
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:49 <cce891ed> secondly, i would have assumed you might want to receive data too
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:50 <tommost> Perhaps.  Do we have a device that actually sends data that I could test with?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:50 <cce891ed> yes, it's sitting on the desk.  it's set to loopback right now.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:50 <cce891ed> (it might have some debugging code still on it actually, i'll check that soon)
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:51 <tommost> RS232 is duplex, no?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:51 <cce891ed> full, yes
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:52 <tommost> Yes.  And what do you need to be able to do with this software?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:53 <cce891ed> well, i'm sure you're going to want to be able to utilize the info.  it'd be nice if there was a debug mode at least that printed out information about what each message was.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:54 <tommost> Yes, I'm asking whether you want some CAN-debugging only app.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:54 <cce891ed> no, i don't think so
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:55 <tommost> Well, the current software requires running the GUI.  Is your answer still the same?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:55 <cce891ed> sure
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:55 <tommost> Okay.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:55 <cce891ed> hehe, i like the fact that X crashing may lead to our robot crashing
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:55 <tommost> Then I'll just make it print the raw incoming messages at the DEBUG logging level.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:55 <tommost> Yeah, it's fun like that.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:56 <tommost> As I see it, the alternative is to totally divorce the two.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:56 <tommost> And use IPC (or even network communication) between them.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 19:56 <tommost> I'm not sure that's worth the trouble, and it would require a lot of changes in the rest of the code.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 20:34 <wahlnj> tommost: do you want anything other than the case?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 20:34 <tommost> The bluetooth adapter.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 20:34 <tommost> Just a minute; I'll find one.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 20:36 <tommost> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320035
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#rhrt: 11/10/09 21:07 <tommost> Has the order been sent?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 21:07 <wahlnj> not yet
#rhrt: 11/10/09 21:14 <wahlnj> ok, it has been placed
#rhrt: 11/10/09 21:14 <tommost> Awesome.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 21:16 <tommost> wahlnj: Did you see that I looked into screens a little?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:46 <wahlnj> yeah, I haven't had a chance to look at them really though
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:46 <wahlnj> that's not a very high priority right now, is it?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:46 <tommost> Eh, not terribly.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:47 <tommost> It's pretty painful to use the current screen, but that's as much due to its position as its size.
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#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:51 <robominator> i've been there twiddling my thumbs for a combined time way more than it would take to remount it, if you'd asked
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:53 <robominator> tommost, do you want it moved?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:53 <tommost> It was mentioned at some point, but you talked about mounting it to the mast, which seems like a bad idea.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:53 <robominator> i'll find some convenient scrap, it won't be as stable, but it will be fine-ish
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:53 <tommost> But yes, it would be nice to have it at a height that is readable when sitting on a chair or stool.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:53 <robominator> that's very high
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:54 <tommost> Yeah, I'm not sure it's worth doing, since that robot will be disassembled so soon, and out of commission in a few weeks.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:54 <robominator> do you have a tripod?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:54 <tommost> Yes.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:55 <robominator> bring it
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:55 <tommost> Ooo.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:55 <tommost> It's in my car.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:55 <robominator> duct-tape the legs down
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:56 <tommost> No.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:56 <tommost> I use it.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:57 <robominator> well, i'd need to see it for a solution that is drivable
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:58 <robominator> how tall is it?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:58 <tommost> It's plenty tall, but it has a ball-head intended for fairly small (light) cameras, so I wouldn't trust it with the monitor when moving.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:58 <tommost> If the monitor were just removable we could pretty easily pop it on the tripod, though.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:59 <tommost> I suggest that you unmount the monitor, stick some velcro on it, and stick it to the top of the box.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:59 <robominator> i'm thinking
#rhrt: 11/10/09 22:59 <tommost> Oh, but ask kleinjt about sticking velcro to it before you do so.
#rhrt: 11/10/09 23:00 <robominator> i think i'm going to lengthen the mounting bolt, put a nut on it so it won't come off, then the monitor is removable by twisting off
#rhrt: 11/10/09 23:00 <robominator> yeah, i wasn't going to use anything but it's existing mounting
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#rhrt: 11/10/09 23:51 <compuwizard123_> tommost__:  what were the emails that needed to get added?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 23:51 <tommost> Give me a few minutes... assignment due at midnight...
#rhrt: 11/10/09 23:53 <compuwizard123_> im going to bed in a few minutes. it can wait till tomorrow lol
#rhrt: 11/10/09 23:53 <compuwizard123_> btw earlier you were talking about testing serial?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 23:53 <compuwizard123_> can bus stuff
#rhrt: 11/10/09 23:54 <compuwizard123_> why wrote own program to test it when you could use something like realterm (http://realterm.sourceforge.net/) that will display and has ability to send data just for testing?
#rhrt: 11/10/09 23:54 <compuwizard123_> maybe im missing something but yea
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#rhrt: 11/11/09 00:01 <tommost> compuwizard123_: You still there?
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#rhrt: 11/11/09 09:40 <robominator> is there a mech meeting?
#rhrt: 11/11/09 09:40 <robominator> wahlnj?
#rhrt: 11/11/09 09:46 <wahlnj> yes
#rhrt: 11/11/09 09:46 <wahlnj> didn't you get the email?
#rhrt: 11/11/09 09:48 <robominator> well, is it actually in the shop? i'm in full shirt and tie
#rhrt: 11/11/09 09:49 <robominator> wahlnj
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#rhrt: 11/11/09 12:42 <compuwizard123_> tommost__: im on now for a little while
#rhrt: 11/11/09 12:47 <tommost> Okay.
#rhrt: 11/11/09 12:48 <tommost> You should add wahlnj@rose... and auchtemm@rose... to that calendar.
#rhrt: 11/11/09 12:48 <compuwizard123_> ok
#rhrt: 11/11/09 12:49 <compuwizard123_> done
#rhrt: 11/11/09 12:49 <tommost> Okay, cool.
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#rhrt: 11/12/09 12:07 <tommost_> robominator: Okay, I fixed it.
#rhrt: 11/12/09 12:07 <tommost_> wahlnj: Okay, awesome.
tommost: 11/12/09 12:35 >< QUIT : "rthc: you're worse than kleinjt"
#rhrt: 11/12/09 13:09 <compuwizard123_> tommost__: here is a simulated kalman filter in python http://www.scipy.org/Cookbook/KalmanFiltering and a good site describing the kalman filter for vehicle navigation http://www.embedded.com/story/OEG20010529S0118
#rhrt: 11/12/09 14:31 <tommost_> I've seen the first one before, but the second is really excellent so far.
#rhrt: 11/12/09 14:31 <tommost_> Could you put those links on this page? https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/software/localization
#rhrt: 11/12/09 14:32 <tommost_> (I'm in class and presentations are about to start so I don't have time.)
#rhrt: 11/12/09 14:33 <tommost_> Also, Dr. Fisher just forwarded us the 2010 rules!
#rhrt: 11/12/09 14:33 <tommost_> I'll forward it to the list later.
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#rhrt: 11/12/09 15:21 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: are you planning on holding a meeting saturday?
#rhrt: 11/12/09 15:28 <cce891ed_>  jaus looks more indepth this year...
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#rhrt: 11/12/09 15:32 <tommost_> cce891ed_: Yeah, it gets harder every year.
#rhrt: 11/12/09 15:35 <tommost> Ooo, they have new illustrations.
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#rhrt: 11/12/09 16:23 <wahlnj> Lemur2010: yes, we will have an optional meeting, but I'm not expecting too many people
#rhrt: 11/12/09 16:24 <wahlnj> there are several things to work on that we can do even if the shop is closed, but not enough things to have everyone working at once
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#rhrt: 11/12/09 23:02 <robominator1> tommost__, any word on minifridge?
#rhrt: 11/12/09 23:59 <tommost__> I'll ask.
#rhrt: 11/12/09 23:59 <tommost__> TBoneULS: Minifridge?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 00:17 <robominator1> who wants to go couch shopping this weekend?
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#rhrt: 11/13/09 01:04 <tommost__> wahlnj: I see you've created a Parts page on the wiki.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 01:05 <tommost__> Perhaps you should also record the cost and quantity of the items?  It would make figuring that out when we write the paper much easier.
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#rhrt: 11/13/09 11:32 <tommost_> Woo, I finally got comped!
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#rhrt: 11/13/09 12:13 <tommost_> wahlnj: Have the case and BT adapter arrived?
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#rhrt: 11/13/09 13:34 <kleinjt> is this minifridge y'all keep talking about some sort of code?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 15:03 <cce891ed_> kleinjt: yes, in both senses
#rhrt: 11/13/09 15:18 <kleinjt> and couch shopping?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 15:19 <cce891ed_> also a code, in the hiding sense of the word.  far more devious plans there...
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#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:31 <robominator> wahlnj, I want to build a robot
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:39 <robominator> cce891ed_, you available?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:39 <tommost> I don't think he's around.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:39 <tommost> I am, though.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:40 <robominator> just wanted to talk about the rj11
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:41 <tommost> Have you tried Ace yet?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:41 <wahlnj> the case, dongle, and RAID controller are in the room
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:41 <tommost> Awesome.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:42 <robominator> you think better selection than lowes in this case?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:42 <wahlnj> from my experience a small local computer store is the best place to get phone and ethernet jacks
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:43 <robominator> do one of you want to make a jack run with me today?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:43 <tommost> Yeah, I can run by right now.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:44 <robominator> any ideas of places to go?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:44 <tommost> Well, I wanted to try Ace, and possibly Rural King (though the latter is somewhat less likely).
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:44 <tommost> I've bought jacks like those at Ace before, though.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:44 <robominator> very, very unlikely
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:45 <robominator> there's a computer repair shop by the mall, I think
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:45 <tommost> Hmm, well, I have to be back by 5:30.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:45 <robominator> any office stores in town?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:45 <wahlnj> there used to be a nice electronics store on Wabash, but I think they closed last year
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:45 <robominator> well, I don't think that that's enough time tommost
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:45 <robominator> wahlnj, what's your evening look like?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:46 <tommost> I'll try Ace.  I need to try getting plier dip for my senior project anyway.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:46 <wahlnj> I might be able to go
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:46 <wahlnj> if tommost is not successful I guess
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:47 <tommost> Okay, does anyone want to accompany me?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:47 <robominator> if you need a friend, i've got nothing better going on
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:47 <tommost> Where are you?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:47 <robominator> front of copo in 10 minutes?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:47 <tommost> 5.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:48 <robominator> done
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:48 <wahlnj> I can come to, if desired
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:48 <robominator> let's make it a party
#rhrt: 11/13/09 16:49 <wahlnj> I'll head over to Percopo now
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:02 <cce891ed_> menards is a good bet too
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#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:36 <robominator> so, cce891ed_, you're only there when i'm not trying to talk to you?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:41 <cce891ed_> erm, i had just gotten back when i wrote that
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:42 <cce891ed_> so, did the 3u case come in?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:42 <tommost> Yes.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:42 <cce891ed_> awesome.  i can't wait to see all the cases mounted on the robot
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:42 <tommost> They're planning on doing that tomorrow.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:43 <cce891ed_> brillian
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:46 <robominator> yeah, and we just picked up a wall plate with 2 rj12 on it
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:47 <robominator> I already have two rj45 and a wall plate with four spots, I might put the 40amp connectors in the empty spots
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:47 <tommost> I don't think that will work.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:47 <robominator> what part?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:47 <tommost> The Anderson connectors are too large.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:47 <robominator> dremel
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:47 <robominator> don't you have a date to be on?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:47 <cce891ed_> ...
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:48 <cce891ed_> there's a lot of force required to plug/unplug them, they need to be mounted to metal
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:48 <robominator> okay, fair enough
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:48 <robominator> well, you have expansion slots then
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:48 <cce891ed_> good
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:48 <tommost> Are you going to mount the huge Anderson's tomorrow too?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:49 <robominator> we'll at least discuss it
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:49 <robominator> my plan had been to bolt a bracket to the bottom of the case
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:49 <robominator> but the cases are flush, so I can't get a nut on the other side
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:50 <cce891ed_> jbweld!
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:50 <robominator> maybe
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:50 <tommost> Hot glue is clearly the answer.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:50 <tommost> And with that bit of wisdom, I must depart.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:50 <robominator> for a metal bracket?
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#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:50 <robominator> bye
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:52 <robominator> when we mount the cases tomorrow I'll get to see if I have any wiggle room
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:52 <robominator> if we have a bolt with a really thin head, i might be able to do something, but it will be.. interesting
#rhrt: 11/13/09 17:52 <cce891ed_> i'd prefer some alternative method
#rhrt: 11/13/09 18:27 <wahlnj> robominator: we allowed for 1/2 in vertical clearance between cases when we designed the frame
#rhrt: 11/13/09 18:27 <wahlnj> so you should be able to use a bolt from the botton
#rhrt: 11/13/09 18:27 <wahlnj> bottom
#rhrt: 11/13/09 18:27 <cce891ed_> i'd prefer if we didn't do that.
#rhrt: 11/13/09 18:28 <wahlnj> not use a bolt or not have clearance between cases?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 18:28 <cce891ed_> not use a bolt.  clearance between cases is up to you, though i don't see much need for it
#rhrt: 11/13/09 18:29 <wahlnj> if we decide it's not necessary, we can cut down the vertical pieces, but I wanted to have a little extra room in case we needed it
#rhrt: 11/13/09 18:30 <cce891ed_> yeah, understandable
#rhrt: 11/13/09 19:07 <compuwizard123_> robominator: what are you looking to buy? have you checked radioshack?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 19:13 <wahlnj> I am under the impression that there won't be an all team meeting Sunday, but that electronics will be working on the computer for tommost_
#rhrt: 11/13/09 19:14 <wahlnj> is that correct?
#rhrt: 11/13/09 19:14 <cce891ed_> at least the second part is
#rhrt: 11/13/09 19:27 <robominator> compuwizard123_, colin checked radioshack for me, but we got what we needed
#rhrt: 11/13/09 19:39 <compuwizard123_> ok
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#rhrt: 11/14/09 01:55 <tommost__> Okay, I have a GstBuffer of the format video/x-raw-yuv, format=(fourcc)I420, width=(int)640, height=(int)480, framerate=(fraction)100/1
#rhrt: 11/14/09 01:55 <tommost__> Now I just have to get that into OpenCV's silly BGR format.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:06 <andy7534211> can you get it in anything other than yuv?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:06 <tommost__> Not sure.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:06 <tommost__> I'm about to experiment with that.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:06 <andy7534211> opencv has some functions to convert a couple other colorspaces (hls, luv, lab, hsv) to bgr
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:08 <tommost__> http://opencv.willowgarage.com/documentation/image_processing.html#cvCvtColor
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:10 <tommost__> Oh, hey, it does Bayer stuff.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:10 <andy7534211> what's that?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:10 <tommost__> Like in  CCD, where they have twice as many green pixels as red or blue.  Check that link.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:12 <andy7534211> would that be useful for us?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:13 <tommost__> Not really.  The Elphel can give us the raw CCD data pretty easily, but we're probably better off doing the interpolation on the FPGA anyway.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:13 <andy7534211> yea..
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:20 <tommost__> Okay, getting RGB was pretty easy.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:20 <tommost__> And actually...
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:20 <tommost__> video/x-raw-rgb, bpp=(int)24, depth=(int)24, red_mask=(int)255, green_mask=(int)65280, blue_mask=(int)16711680, endianness=(int)4321, width=(int)640, height=(int)480, framerate=(fraction)100/1
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:21 <tommost__> Doesn't that look like BGR order?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:22 <tommost__> Er, wait, little-endian...
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:22 <tommost__> Freaking little-endian...
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:23 <andy7534211> pixel = ntohl(pixel<<8)? =D
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:23 <tommost__> Meh, I'll just use cvCvtColor.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:24 <andy7534211> yea, it's nice that opencv2 actually has cvtcolor functions for rgb..
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:24 <tommost__> Didn't 1.1?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:24 <andy7534211> i don't think so, maybe it did though?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:25 <andy7534211> oh, i guess it did
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:25 <tommost__> Didn't you use cvCvtColor to get stuff in the correct order for a GtkPixbuf?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:25 <tommost__> Yeah.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:26 <andy7534211> i might have.. i just looked up some docs that seem to  say that it didn't include those conversions, but they were probably wrong
#rhrt: 11/14/09 02:26 <tommost__> I'm a little confused that it can't do YUV myself... how do they deal with it in their video capture stuff?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 03:53 <tommost__> SUCCESS!
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#rhrt: 11/14/09 12:09 <Lemur2010> tommost_ : you there?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 12:10 <Lemur2010> Does anyone know if there are any problems generated by myers loosing power for 3-5 seconds?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 12:10 <Lemur2010> like with the servers
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#rhrt: 11/14/09 12:44 <kleinjt> I can still reach rhitrobotics.org and my server, I suspect the UPSes worked
#rhrt: 11/14/09 12:47 <Lemur2010> good
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:07 <tommost__> Oh, good.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:08 <tommost__> My server is still up, too.
chtr: 11/14/09 13:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:09 <tommost__> Apparently freya didn't fare so well, however...
chtr: 11/14/09 13:09 >< NICK : rthc
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:10 <rthc> ...
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:10 <tommost__> rthc: Myers lost power for a few seconds.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:10 <rthc> odd
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:10 <rthc> how are the robots faring?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:11 <tommost__> Lemur2010: Are you meeting now?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:28 <rthc> i think i'm going to be coming in after i finish my cup of coffee
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:28 <rthc> i'll get the computer and such running off of AC
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:28 <tommost__> Okay, excellent.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:29 <rthc> it'll just be a temporary solution, but at least you'll have it
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:48 <Lemur2010> tommost__ yes
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:49 <Lemur2010> we would like to know if it is ok to empty the 2U case for drilling and putting on rails
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:52 <Lemur2010> rthc: can we remove the computer from the 2U case to drill
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:52 <Lemur2010> and mount rails
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:52 <tommost__> I think it would be; but rthc should be in in a little while.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 13:52 <tommost__> He may be in transit right now.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 14:00 <Lemur2010> do you have an eta on him - robominator?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 14:43 <rthc> tommost__: computer's running off of AC now
#rhrt: 11/14/09 14:43 <tommost__> Awesome.  I was just about to head over there—I want to play with GStreamer and the Elphel a bit.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 14:44 <rthc> mk
#rhrt: 11/14/09 14:45 <rthc> btw, i  won't be able to make the 1pm meeting tomorrow, i don't know if we were having one or not anyway
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#rhrt: 11/14/09 15:53 <rthc> someone should call 4pcb.com and ask them what their sponsorships ential
#rhrt: 11/14/09 15:53 <rthc> s/tial/tail/
#rhrt: 11/14/09 15:54 <wahlnj> did you see something that leads you to believe they might help us?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 15:54 <rthc> http://www.4pcb.com/index.php?load=content&page_id=134
#rhrt: 11/14/09 15:54 <rthc> i just noticed the first bullet
#rhrt: 11/14/09 15:55 <wahlnj> ok, I can call them Monday
#rhrt: 11/14/09 15:55 <wahlnj> what would you need from them?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 15:56 <rthc> well, i'm guessing (based on this website: http://csss.slu.edu/~ieee_robot/progress.html) that they'd give us some credit for boards, which would rock
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#rhrt: 11/14/09 16:10 <wahlnj> I will check with Development before I call to see if they want to handle it
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#rhrt: 11/14/09 16:36 <rthc> sounds good
#rhrt: 11/14/09 16:36 <rthc> tommost: you should post pictures of the robot
#rhrt: 11/14/09 16:36 <Lemur2010> it looks pimp
#rhrt: 11/14/09 16:38 <tommost> Busy now.  Later.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 16:38 <rthc> lies
#rhrt: 11/14/09 16:39 <Lemur2010> i can take picts right now with my phone and e-mail it to whereever for posting within 2 minutes
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#rhrt: 11/14/09 17:10 <wahlnj> if we put the batteries behind the computer case we're looking at about 115 lbs on the caster and 70 lbs on each drive wheel
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#rhrt: 11/14/09 17:12 <wahlnj> obviously more than we'd like, but the caster is rated for 350 lbs
#rhrt: 11/14/09 17:12 <rthc> on second though, it seems like we'll want that space open for easily accessing wires and such
#rhrt: 11/14/09 17:12 <wahlnj> and is wider and of a larger diameter than what we were initially looking at
#rhrt: 11/14/09 17:13 <wahlnj> ok, although with this design it would be easy to pull the case out to get to wires
#rhrt: 11/14/09 17:15 <rthc> i guess it could be considered
#rhrt: 11/14/09 17:16 <wahlnj> yeah, it's not something that we need to decide now
#rhrt: 11/14/09 17:22 <wahlnj> Lemur2010, robominator: what do you think of having the batteries behind the computer?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:29 <Lemur2010> no
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:29 <Lemur2010> must be up front to get correct weight distribution
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:29 <Lemur2010> and if you are talking about in the space behind the 3U, rthc already wanted that to be left alone for wiring space
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:30 <Lemur2010> wahlnj: ok?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:31 <wahlnj> I know weight distribution would be an issue, but we might be able to make it work
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:32 <wahlnj> and rthc said putting the batteries in that space was a possibility
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:32 <wahlnj> (5:10:33 PM) wahlnj: if we put the batteries behind the computer case we're looking at about 115 lbs on the caster and 70 lbs on each drive wheel
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:37 <Lemur2010> that just wont do
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:37 <Lemur2010> the drive wheel need ~200lbs to have the suspension work correctly
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:42 <wahlnj> even in the original design with the batteries over the caster they will only have 75 lbs each
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:42 <wahlnj> compared to 65-70 if the batteries are further back
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:44 <Lemur2010> i want the batteries almost infront of the wheels
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:44 <Lemur2010> i need the weight on the front
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:44 <Lemur2010> but to be genuinly honst, if you can give me 100lbs per front wheel, i would be fine with wherever you put the batteries
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:46 <wahlnj> you told me you did the math with a 200 lb robot and 25% of the weight on the caster
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:47 <Lemur2010> i forgot about the weight distribution
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:47 <Lemur2010> i did 200 pounds on the drive wheels
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:47 <wahlnj> well, it looks like we'll be closer to 250 lbs now
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:49 <Lemur2010> i want the robot weighed
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:49 <Lemur2010> litterally
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:49 <Lemur2010> i need the weight + or - 5 lbs
#rhrt: 11/14/09 18:50 <Lemur2010> so that we can place the drive wheels accuratly
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#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:43 <robominator> sorry not to participate till now, i mentioned at the meeting where i was
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:43 <robominator> but I could go either way, the robot will look a lot cleaner with them in the back
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:44 <robominator> but our springs would need replacing in that case
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:44 <rthc> the one way i could see it working for me
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:44 <rthc> would be if the battery holders were not solid sheets of metal
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:44 <rthc> i.e. we can reach through them to connect/disconnect cables
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:44 <robominator> like cargo netting
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:44 <rthc> no, like a frame design
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:45 <robominator> so a skeletal battery holder
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:45 <rthc> ja, genau
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:46 <robominator> or suspended from a steel apparatus
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:46 <robominator> it would be hard to support a battery box down there
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:46 <rthc> haha
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:48 <rthc> were photos of the robot ever posted?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:48 <rthc> 
ACTION glares at tommost 

#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:48 <rthc> 
ACTION glares at tommost__ 

#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:48 <tommost> 
ACTION glares at tommost_

#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:48 <robominator> cargo netting can hold several hundred pounds per strand
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:49 <robominator> and we could shove the battery s around to get at things
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:49 <rthc> only if it's suspended from a steel apparatus though, or so i hear
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:50 <robominator> with one bolt
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:51 <robominator> seriously though, if we bolted it to the top rails some good netting good take our payload or batteries, i would go payload for lack of wiring
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:52 <robominator> http://www.usnetting.com/HTML/cargoWEB.html
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:52 <rthc> i'd prefer things to not be swinging around...
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:52 <tommost> Images have been posted.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:53 <tommost> /rhrt/pics/09-10/hardware
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:55 <rthc> awesome, thanks
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:55 <robominator> eh, then I think we prefer to be on top, as opposed to behind ;{)>
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:56 <rthc> speak for yourself
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:57 <robominator> okay, rthc, besides the logistical challenges, that is a fair position
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:59 <tommost> rthc: Have you figured out what you wanted to about the batteries?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:59 <rthc> tommost: have you not been following the discussion?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:59 <tommost> Not really.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:59 <tommost> Oh, that discussion.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 21:59 <rthc>  that's obvious ;)
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:00 <tommost> No, I meant what you were logging them for.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:00 <tommost> You still have your logging stuff running on the server.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:00 <rthc> oh, hehe
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:00 <tommost> As well as a root bash prompt...
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:00 <tommost> What mischief are you up to?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:00 <rthc> no, stuff's not being logged.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:01 <rthc> i don't see cat running anywhere
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:01 <tommost> Your tail of battery.lv is still there.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:01 <tommost> That's all I was talking about.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:01 <rthc> yeah, but it's not doing anything
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:02 <tommost> Yet I noticed it, and it made me wonder whether you've analyzed the data yet.
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:03 <rthc> i don't have enough to really draw any conclusions
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:04 <rthc> regardless, we should buy at least one more battery, since we've the funds
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:05 <tommost> Would it be better to use the funds to get the second charger?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:05 <rthc> no, that charger's  being bought regardless
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:45 <Lemur2010> i am with rthc about no swinging batteries
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:45 <tommost> When are the charger and extra battery getting purchased?
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:50 <Lemur2010> idk, i just think it will be P.I.M.P.to just plug the robot into the wall to charge it
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:51 <Lemur2010> the batteries (just to ring in again) need to be up front to get the 70/30 weight distribution
#rhrt: 11/14/09 22:52 <Lemur2010> 80/20 distribution would be ok too
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#rhrt: 11/15/09 00:05 <wahlnj> the total weight might be closer to 275 lbs
#rhrt: 11/15/09 00:06 <rthc> we should totally get a scalwe
#rhrt: 11/15/09 00:11 <tommost> ?
#rhrt: 11/15/09 00:12 <rthc> s/w//; proximity of keys is messing things up again
#rhrt: 11/15/09 00:12 <rthc> also, i fail at regex corrections :'(
#rhrt: 11/15/09 00:12 <tommost> :)
#rhrt: 11/15/09 00:12 <rthc> i did rock at the regex correction i had to hand-write on the whiteboard today
#rhrt: 11/15/09 00:12 <rthc> s/k/ch/ was the regex.
#rhrt: 11/15/09 00:12 <tommost> Yes, this whole "guess the weight based on the materials" thing seems suspicious to me.
#rhrt: 11/15/09 00:13 <rthc> fun fact: logitech isn't spelled with a terminal `h'
#rhrt: 11/15/09 00:13 <rthc> wow.  terminal `k'
#rhrt: 11/15/09 00:13 <tommost> I never can remember.
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#rhrt: 11/15/09 08:23 <wahlnj> I'll borrow a scale Monday
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#rhrt: 11/15/09 10:58 <compuwizard123_> wahlnj: rthc: tommost__: kleinjt: is there a meeting today at 1pm?
#rhrt: 11/15/09 10:58 <wahlnj> no, no meeting today
#rhrt: 11/15/09 10:58 <compuwizard123_> i feel that we need one to organize whats going to happen over the next few weeks before winter break
#rhrt: 11/15/09 10:58 <compuwizard123_> especially the battery position and weight
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#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:00 <compuwizard123_> we also need a firm status update on what each group has completed and what they plan to do over the next few weeks
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:00 <wahlnj> we do need to figure out the battery situation, but we can't do too much until we have a better idea about the weight
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:01 <wahlnj> I'm going to borrow a scale and weigh everything tomorrow, unless someone has access to a scale before then
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:01 <compuwizard123_> ok
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:03 <robominator> what time, wahlnj?
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:03 <robominator> compuwizard123_, have you seen the mounted cases?
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:03 <wahlnj> tommost__ won't be able to come today, and I don't think rthc can either, so I'm not sure a meeting would acommplish much
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:04 <robominator> we're a little ahead of that schedule you and i set, compuwizard123_,
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:04 <robominator> and how about something with fewer chars?
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:05 <wahlnj> robominator: I'm giving a tour at 9:00 and I'll probably pick up the scale after that, between 10:00 and 10:45 probably
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:05 <wahlnj> should I call you?
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:05 <robominator> i'd love to help, but i have a morning and an afternoon
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:06 <robominator> so if i finish early enough for both that and a nap and lunch and studying
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:06 <robominator> then i'll help
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:09 <compuwizard123_> robominator: never ahead of schedule, lol something always comes up to fill the space
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:10 <compuwizard123_> robominator: are you talking about my irc nick? usually you can tab complete the nicks
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:10 <compuwizard123_> robominator: no i havent seen the mounted cases yet
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:11 <wahlnj> compuwizard123_: is everything you guys talked about as far as the schedule on the google calendar?
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:12 <compuwizard123_> wahlnj: um not everything. We had a rough plan up till about start of 3rd quarter
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:12 <compuwizard123_> I have a calendar drawn on whiteboard in myers room
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:13 <wahlnj> ok, I saw that but didn't really get a chance to look at it
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:13 <compuwizard123_> we had it planned that computer, electronics, etc would be moved over to new frame by winter break
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:14 <wahlnj> yeah, that was my understanding
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:14 <compuwizard123_> then spend 4-5 weeks getting steady cam done
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:15 <wahlnj> I talked to rthc yesterday and he said he thinks they can get the electronics moved over in two Sundays
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:15 <compuwizard123_> well thats all you will have after thanksgiving break
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:15 <compuwizard123_> its 3 weeks but only 2 sundays
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:15 <rthc> it can probably be done in one sunday.
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:16 <rthc> but i'm saying two to be save
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:16 <rthc> s/ve/fe/
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:16 <compuwizard123_> doesn't matter how quickly someone says it can be done. it just needs to be done
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:17 <compuwizard123_> so therefore hopefully by start of winter break have robot moved over to new with everything except camera
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:17 <wahlnj> we'll have the camera temporarily mounted on the mast without the steadicam
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:17 <wahlnj> at least that's what tommost__ asked for
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:18 <compuwizard123_> yea but final/functional of everything else i think
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:18 <compuwizard123_> except maybe misc electronics stuff
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:18 <compuwizard123_> and anything additional that wasnt on previous frame
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:19 <compuwizard123_> during the 4-5 weeks after winter break everything else for the robot should be completed
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:19 <compuwizard123_> if that schedule is followed the entire robot will be finished mech/electronics by start of 3rd quarter
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:20 <compuwizard123_> that would give software approx 6 weeks of testing and software developing on a final robot before hopefully having everything done with 4 weeks to test final robot
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:21 <wahlnj> yeah, there are a few miscellaneous things like side panels that probably won't be done before Christmas break, but nothing that should affect software and electronics other than the steadicam
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:21 <compuwizard123_> robominator: did i miss anything?
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:21 <compuwizard123_> the robot should be completely finished mech/electronics by start of 3rd
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:21 <compuwizard123_> quarter
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:22 <compuwizard123_> personally i would like to aim for 1 full month for final testing
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:23 <compuwizard123_> wahlnj: has anyone done a gantt chart or any other planning system for this?
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:23 <wahlnj> no, I was thinking yesterday that we probably should
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:24 <compuwizard123_> we dont have microsoft project do we?
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:24 <wahlnj> I don't think so
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:26 <compuwizard123_> ok well the calendar for now is a start
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:26 <wahlnj> we might want to look at http://tomsplanner.com/
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:27 <wahlnj> I've heard good things about it
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:27 <compuwizard123_> its free until beta comes out
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:27 <compuwizard123_> i looked at it already and it could work
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:29 <wahlnj> compuwizard123_: would you like to start putting together a gnatt chart?
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:30 <wahlnj> at the next all team meeting we can go over that and fill it out
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:30 <compuwizard123_> wahlnj: ok i will start to put together a rough outline for the gantt chart
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:31 <compuwizard123_> the next sunday meeting wont be until 12/7? or 11/30?
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:31 <compuwizard123_> 11/29 i mean
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:32 <compuwizard123_> and 12/6
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:33 <wahlnj> it depends on when everyone gets back from break, if enough people are here we can have one on the 29th
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:33 <rthc> if people want to meet 11-29, i could probably make it back.
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:35 <compuwizard123_> i know i won't be back until late 11/29
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:42 <robominator> office communicator meeting?
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:42 <wahlnj> or irc, because I don't think a lot of people have communicator
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:43 <wahlnj> particularly those people running linux
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:44 <compuwizard123_> if you are talking about 11/29 irc/comminicator meeting i wont have internet from 8am-9pmish since driving from nj
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:44 <compuwizard123_> just throwing that out there
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:46 <robominator> well, that's quite a while
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:47 <wahlnj> ok, let's have the meeting at 7:00 am then
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:47 <rthc> ...
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:48 <compuwizard123_> could we push meeting to monday?
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:49 <rthc> i've a meeting 7-9 on monday, but i could do it sometime before or after
#rhrt: 11/15/09 11:49 <wahlnj> toward the end of break we'll see who's going to be here and figure out what we want to do
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#rhrt: 11/15/09 13:11 <tommost__> Microsoft Project is on MSDNAA.
#rhrt: 11/15/09 13:11 <tommost__> But that web-based one would probably be easier to deal with (plus its name is awesome).
#rhrt: 11/15/09 13:12 <tommost__> If there's no meeting today, just post your team status to http://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/meetings/2009-11-15
#rhrt: 11/15/09 13:12 <tommost__> I've already done software.
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#rhrt: 11/16/09 13:10 <wahlnj> the robot weighs 235 lbs without electronics
#rhrt: 11/16/09 13:12 <wahlnj> which puts us between 250 and 275 lbs total
#rhrt: 11/16/09 13:17 <rthc> ah, cool
#rhrt: 11/16/09 13:21 <rthc> wahlnj: were you factoring in the battery weight into either of those?
#rhrt: 11/16/09 13:39 <rthc> oh, i see their slovenian.
#rhrt: 11/16/09 13:39 <rthc> no excuse then
#rhrt: 11/16/09 13:39 <kleinjt> ... wrong channel?
#rhrt: 11/16/09 13:40 <rthc> wrong they're, too
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#rhrt: 11/16/09 17:06 <wahlnj> yes, the 235 includes frame, empty cases, 2 batteries, motors, gearboxes, mounting plates, springs, pillow blocks, payload, wheels, and caster
#rhrt: 11/16/09 17:07 <rthc> ok, nice.
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#rhrt: 11/16/09 17:17 <tommost> Two hunters are out in the woods when one of them collapses. He doesn't seem to be breathing and his eyes are glazed. The other guy whips out his phone and calls the emergency services.
#rhrt: 11/16/09 17:17 <tommost> He gasps, "My friend is dead! What can I do?". The operator says "Calm down. I can help. First, let's make sure he's dead." There is a silence, then a shot is heard. Back on the phone, the guy says "OK, now what?"
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#rhrt: 11/16/09 17:34 <robominator> wow, tommost, don't abuse the channel
#rhrt: 11/16/09 17:35 <robominator> only strict ROBOTICS club business
#rhrt: 11/16/09 17:35 <robominator> come on, shape up or ship out
#rhrt: 11/16/09 17:42 <kleinjt> tommost: what happens next?
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#rhrt: 11/16/09 17:43 <tommost> Oh, wrong channel.
#rhrt: 11/16/09 17:43 <tommost> :-/
#rhrt: 11/16/09 17:44 <tommost> I keep doing that...
#rhrt: 11/16/09 17:44 <robominator> i'
#rhrt: 11/16/09 17:44 <robominator> never
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#rhrt: 11/17/09 15:18 <robominator> hmm, i would rather think about robots than finals, anyone have any tasks i might be qualified for?
#rhrt: 11/17/09 15:22 <rthc> create the mounting plates for the cases?
#rhrt: 11/17/09 15:32 <robominator> good one, i just might do that tomorrow
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#rhrt: 11/18/09 22:33 <compuwizard123_> robominator: how did whatever you were going to work on go?
#rhrt: 11/18/09 22:41 <robominator> couldn't find anybody else
#rhrt: 11/18/09 22:41 <robominator> not good to machine by yourself
#rhrt: 11/18/09 22:45 <compuwizard123_> true sorry i had to pack and stuff to go home
#rhrt: 11/18/09 22:58 <rthc> robominator: i think jay's around somewhere... i saw his car today
#rhrt: 11/18/09 23:02 <robominator> thanks for the warning
#rhrt: 11/18/09 23:03 <robominator> i'll make sure to leave quietly
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#rhrt: 11/19/09 08:22 <robominator> kay, getting ready to dust off, if you need me, good luck finding me, and if you want anything from paradise let me know right now
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#rhrt: 11/19/09 14:46 <wahlnj> tommost: I'm sending Dick Boyce an email about that pcb site rthc mentioned; would you like me to ask about monitors as well?
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#rhrt: 11/19/09 20:25 <tommost__> wahlnj1: Sure.
#rhrt: 11/19/09 20:25 <tommost__> Who's Dick Boyce?
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#rhrt: 11/19/09 20:53 <wahlnj1> the guy in the Development Office who said he'd try to get us stuff
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#rhrt: 11/24/09 20:37 <robominator> so, who is cranberry?
#rhrt: 11/24/09 20:39 <robominator> hey, rthc, should i look into your connectors while i'm home, or is that covered?
#rhrt: 11/24/09 20:51 <kleinjt> robominator: cranberry is tommost__
#rhrt: 11/24/09 20:51 <kleinjt> that was fun to tab complete
#rhrt: 11/24/09 20:55 <kleinjt> rthc: if you put the parts for the power over ethernet board on the electronics todo list on the wiki I'll order them. we should start moving on that soon lest we loose the grad students...
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#rhrt: 11/25/09 01:52 <tommost__> Welcome back, everyone!
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#rhrt: 11/25/09 23:47 <crunchberry> wow, i mind was just blown a little bit
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#rhrt: 11/27/09 18:33 <robominator> so, did we ever decide if there would be a sunday meeting?
#rhrt: 11/27/09 18:35 <robominator> i'll be to campus maybe 3:30
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#rhrt: 11/28/09 10:07 <wahlnj> who will be on campus tomorrow afternoon?
#rhrt: 11/28/09 10:09 <wahlnj> I'm trying to decide whether we'll have a meeting and if so what time
#rhrt: 11/28/09 10:19 <rthc> i'll be around
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#rhrt: 11/28/09 15:28 <tommost> I'll be in transit.
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#rhrt: 11/28/09 16:10 <wahlnj> tommost: what time will you be back, we can have the meeting later if that works better
#rhrt: 11/28/09 16:32 <tommost> Probably in the evening.
#rhrt: 11/28/09 16:32 <tommost> The drive takes me 10-12 hours, so I don't think you should wait for me.
#rhrt: 11/28/09 16:32 <tommost> When I leave depends on when I'm awake and packed.
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#rhrt: 11/28/09 17:30 <wahlnj> tommost: I'll take notes on the meeting for the wiki if anything noteworthy happens
#rhrt: 11/28/09 17:30 <wahlnj> I'm guessing we'll only have four or five people
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#rhrt: 11/28/09 17:42 <tommost> wahlnj: Okay.
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tommost: 11/29/09 13:45 >< QUIT : "rthc: you're worse than kleinjt"
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#rhrt: 11/29/09 17:42 <kleinjt> rthc: a 2 by 2 inch board from the 4pcb prototype costs $40..
#rhrt: 11/29/09 17:42 <kleinjt> which I guess is fine, nevermind
#rhrt: 11/29/09 17:43 <kleinjt> and a 4 by 4 inch board is about $50
#rhrt: 11/29/09 17:44 <kleinjt> awesome, at 12 by 19 inches it is less than $1 per square inch
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#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:25 <robominator> so, wahlnj1, i got there at 4:30, what did i miss?
#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:25 <kleinjt> the meeting. zing!
#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:27 <robominator> exactly
#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:28 <robominator> hey, off topic, don't tell t0mmost, klienjt, shibberu is listed in two different rooms for the cs and math versions of 490
#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:28 <robominator> any guesses of which is the right one?
#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:29 <kleinjt> oh, cool, two different floors too
#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:29 <robominator> any insights, besides that?
#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:31 <kleinjt> trial and error
#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:31 <robominator> divide and conquer?
#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:32 <kleinjt> email?
#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:33 <robominator> he hasn't sent one, and i'm afraid to ask, maybe it's the first test
#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:35 <robominator> i mean he'd have to be pretty ill prepared not to have noticed this
#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:36 <kleinjt> I'm not worried, it isn't difficult to check two rooms. Maybe he has cool plans for the future, and wanted to nab two rooms
#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:41 <robominator> what if its a trick? he's not even in crapo
#rhrt: 11/29/09 21:42 <kleinjt> well, you could always camp outside his office before class
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#rhrt: 11/30/09 15:50 <wahlnj> is there a software meeting tonight?
#rhrt: 11/30/09 15:51 <wahlnj> cranberry, compuwizard123_
#rhrt: 11/30/09 18:04 <compuwizard123_> wahlnj idk i wasnt around; i didn;'t finish gantt chart yet but plan to over next day or two
#rhrt: 11/30/09 18:08 <wahlnj> ok, that's fine, we'll discuss it at the meeting Sunday
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