Moxoms_Master: 02/01/10 00:04 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer tommost: 02/01/10 00:04 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! TBoneULS: 02/01/10 01:05 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 248 seconds TBoneULS: 02/01/10 01:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/01/10 01:31 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/01/10 01:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/01/10 08:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/01/10 08:35 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer robominator: 02/01/10 08:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/01/10 09:59 >< PART #rhrt: robominator: 02/01/10 17:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/01/10 17:34 tommost__: what's the tally? tommost: 02/01/10 19:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/01/10 19:44 rthc: You said that setdc was a signed 16-bit int with a range of -255 ... 255? #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:07 rthc: The robot just jitters when I try that... #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:07 I also disable the PID with setgain 0 0 0 first. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:09 Oh, and my "jitters" I mean "shudders violently". #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:11 tommost: setting gains to zero is not how you disable pid #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:12 send tdisable #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:13 That command is not implemented in our software. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:13 What is its code and argument(s)? #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:14 And return value(s)? #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:15 0 #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:20 Ah, we have that named "disable". #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:20 ACTION glares at andy753421 #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:22 seems reasonable #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:23 is that from that huge nested dictionary? #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:24 Yeah... #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:24 yea, i think that was probably one of the more evil bits of code I wrote #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:24 I always assumed disable did the same thing as the killswitch. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:24 It's horrid, but not as horrid as the motor controllers themselves. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:24 They've gotten in a funk again, and now I'm going to have to risk life and limb to reset them. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:25 or, you know, you could be safe and flick the motor breaker. like normal people do. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:25 but i agree, they are horrible. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:25 rthc: They always need to be reset after the breaker is flicked. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:25 no, they don't. i'll bet you money #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:27 That has been my experience. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:27 I'll bet you money that that's what they've done for me in the past. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:28 But I am not willing to stake anything on their continued consistent performance. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:28 i'll bet you $20 right now that you can turn on and off the motor breaker with the motor controllers running, and they'll work fine #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:28 (in my defense, drive.disable does both tdisable and rdisable) #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:29 (i need money, my atm card died) #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:29 I'll give you a dollar if you want into emc with five minutes left in class #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:29 auchter: usually when you want to make a bet, you don't tell them that you'll be unable to pay if you loose #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:29 well, i might take a while #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:30 Nope, didn't work. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:30 Everything is broken. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:31 cool #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:33 I'm going to risk life and limb again. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:33 This is all for you, kleinjt and robominator. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:34 you're doing something wrong #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:34 Ah, I see, the serial-cable-without-screws came undone. #rhrt: 02/01/10 20:34 You guys should find a less crappy cable. tommost: 02/01/10 20:51 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! andy753421: 02/01/10 20:53 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds #rhrt: 02/01/10 21:14 i'm glad to see that tommost__ understands that we're willing to sacrifice him for this andy753421: 02/01/10 21:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/01/10 21:23 what's the robot's password? (pm me, obviously) #rhrt: 02/01/10 21:24 think of the first program you've ever implemented #rhrt: 02/01/10 21:25 its not goodbyeworld, but: #rhrt: 02/01/10 21:26 tricky #rhrt: 02/01/10 21:27 how long would it take a dictionary attack to get that, you think? robominator: 02/01/10 23:28 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. wahlnj1: 02/02/10 00:56 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/02/10 00:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/02/10 01:57 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/02/10 02:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/02/10 09:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/02/10 10:16 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer tommost: 02/02/10 11:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/02/10 11:56 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/02/10 11:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/02/10 12:39 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds tommost: 02/02/10 12:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost1: 02/02/10 13:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/02/10 13:00 >< QUIT : Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by tommost1)) tommost1: 02/02/10 13:00 >< NICK : tommost tommost: 02/02/10 13:00 >< QUIT : Client Quit robominator_mast: 02/02/10 13:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator_mast: 02/02/10 13:22 >< QUIT : Client Quit moxoms_master: 02/02/10 13:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/02/10 13:26 wahlnj: lemur wants you #rhrt: 02/02/10 13:26 are you available? #rhrt: 02/02/10 13:28 lemur and robominator put old frame in storage, and returned with tasteful table to complement the feng shui of room #rhrt: 02/02/10 13:29 we have a great deal of earth element chi, which was out of balance moxoms_master: 02/02/10 13:29 >< QUIT : Quit: Page closed rthc: 02/02/10 13:54 >< QUIT : Quit: restarting screen rthc: 02/02/10 13:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/02/10 14:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/02/10 14:06 >< PART #rhrt: robominator: 02/02/10 14:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/02/10 14:07 tommost__, cranberry: kleinjt and i would like to know if the gps is working ish #rhrt: 02/02/10 14:07 i believe it does #rhrt: 02/02/10 14:08 as of sunday it didn't #rhrt: 02/02/10 14:10 pcb for can-rs232 board shipped robominator: 02/02/10 14:24 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer tommost: 02/02/10 14:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/02/10 15:10 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/02/10 15:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/02/10 16:20 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! robominator: 02/02/10 16:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/02/10 17:03 robominator: I was in class earlier, what did you guys need? #rhrt: 02/02/10 17:03 just what i mentioned #rhrt: 02/02/10 17:09 did moxom win? any one know? robominator: 02/02/10 17:18 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer andy753421: 02/02/10 17:28 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/02/10 17:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/02/10 17:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/02/10 18:55 Moxom's Master is the current leader. #rhrt: 02/02/10 18:55 robominator: I haven't messed with it since Sunday. #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:04 so, tomorrow? #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:04 kleinjt, tommost__ when can you make it out there? #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:13 Out where? #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:13 As I said in class, it is ready to be driven around and collect data. #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:33 tomorrow, to work #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:33 sorry to not be clear #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:35 I was planning on 10:45 or so, but I could show up earlier if you'd prefer. #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:35 i'm cool with whatevs #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:35 I can be there until 1:40, when I have another meeting. #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:35 about same for me #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:36 Do we think that's enough time? #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:37 i have no idea, did you share the calender with me when you outlooked it? #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:37 I can do that now. #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:37 Give me a sec to boot my laptop. #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:45 yea that one, but especially the milestones we made for ourselves #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:46 It's in the repo. #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:49 http://rhitrobotics.org/browser/branches/2010-image-rec/docs/project-plan.pdf?rev=647 #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:51 sure, i've got it from there, i thought you put them all in your outlook #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:51 my mistake #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:55 I just did that, actually. #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:55 But it doesn't have a way for me to send them to you. #rhrt: 02/02/10 19:56 aiit, i'll do it myself, thanks for looking into it #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:19 robominator: I'll be there at 10:00 PM #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:20 PM? #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:21 erm, what did i agree to? i have a funny habit of forgetting such things Lemur2010: 02/02/10 20:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:22 robominator: Are you going to have time to get the textured matching stuff working tonight? #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:22 We'll probably need all of our time tomorrow to get it working on the three different classes (instead of just the two). #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:23 i couldn't even find a problem with it, i don't know, but i'll make it my priority for tonight #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:23 confused #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:24 okay, we meet tomorrow morning then? #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:24 kleinjt: We're meeting at 10:45 a.m. #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:24 Yes. #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:24 kleinjt: assume that any time i say something i have no idea what i said #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:24 blast, that sounds like a lot less fun #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:24 i'll do 10pm #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:24 fine by me #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:24 We want some daylight so the camera works... #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:25 I plan to capture video with it on our run. #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:25 well, we don't really need to meet in person, I won't be there at 10 PM. I'll just start actually coding and reading papers #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:25 I can also be there at 10:45 AM in the sunlight #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:26 that stuff burns #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:27 where was the one you had today? #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:27 okay. so no meeting tonight, and I'll passively attend the next meeting which is mainly for vision, but also may have some logging. #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:28 Definitely some logging; it's important. #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:30 we will be doing many loggings #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:31 if you want tonight, i'll need proof that you actually were going #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:32 Also, I put an icon to launch the software on the computer's desktop. #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:32 So once the team gets its own Wiimote you'll be able to demo with it pretty easily (just power up the computer on battery power first). #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:33 ACTION high five tommost__ tommost: 02/02/10 20:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/02/10 20:50 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:54 tommost: will we know by the mechanical meeting at 12:30 whether mounting the camera on a rigid mount causes too much blurring in the image? #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:55 No, we need you to mount so that we can angle it correctly before we can go out and collect images. #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:55 Right now it's very horizontal in orientation, and it can't pivot down enough. #rhrt: 02/02/10 20:57 wahlnj: can i get a couple of people earlier than that help me figure a better solution? #rhrt: 02/02/10 21:03 I can probably come earlier #rhrt: 02/02/10 21:03 name a time #rhrt: 02/02/10 21:05 mike andy753421: 02/02/10 21:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/02/10 21:13 er... or 10am #rhrt: 02/02/10 21:13 or 10pm with kleinjt and i #rhrt: 02/02/10 21:13 I don't think we're meeting tonight #rhrt: 02/02/10 21:23 i #rhrt: 02/02/10 21:23 'm already there #rhrt: 02/02/10 21:25 okay. I'm staying in my warm building reading up on paramter estimation for kalman filters and won't be venturing over to meyers. wahlnj1: 02/02/10 21:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/02/10 21:36 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 265 seconds #rhrt: 02/02/10 21:43 http://openslam.org/ looks interesting #rhrt: 02/02/10 21:45 http://openslam.org/gmapping.html would be awesome #rhrt: 02/02/10 21:45 um lasers? #rhrt: 02/02/10 21:46 http://www.popsci.com/gadgets/article/2010-01/laser-guided-vacuum-could-best-roomba #rhrt: 02/02/10 21:47 we could liberate his... #rhrt: 02/02/10 22:30 tommost: will you be around at 12:30 tomorrow? #rhrt: 02/02/10 22:30 around meaning in the robotics room #rhrt: 02/02/10 22:36 yeah, i'm pretty sure he'll be there, unless we've got the robot in a field Lemur2010: 02/02/10 23:37 >< PART #rhrt: wahlnj: 02/03/10 00:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/03/10 00:36 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 260 seconds #rhrt: 02/03/10 00:59 robominator: 10 am to work on the camera? andy753421: 02/03/10 01:57 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/03/10 02:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/03/10 09:31 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/03/10 09:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/03/10 09:48 >< PART #rhrt: Lemur2010: 02/03/10 10:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/03/10 10:10 tommost: the only additional votes I've heard were for Despair #rhrt: 02/03/10 10:11 can we say that that's the winner, or have you received any other votes? robominator: 02/03/10 10:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/03/10 10:20 The only additional votes (from people not at the meeting) were for Moxom's Master. tommost: 02/03/10 10:21 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! #rhrt: 02/03/10 10:31 tommost__: how many additional votes did you get? #rhrt: 02/03/10 10:40 wahlnj: i'm here, whenever you've got some time #rhrt: 02/03/10 10:40 this is a perplexing problem #rhrt: 02/03/10 10:42 mmmkay, heading over now. #rhrt: 02/03/10 10:46 robominator: I won't be able to come until 12:30 Lemur2010: 02/03/10 11:26 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. #rhrt: 02/03/10 11:32 wahlnj, i did it, aiight #rhrt: 02/03/10 11:38 rthc: fyi the kill switches are unresponsive #rhrt: 02/03/10 11:38 robominator: oh, that makes sense. #rhrt: 02/03/10 11:39 i'll be down in a few minutes with a fix #rhrt: 02/03/10 11:39 we're done I think #rhrt: 02/03/10 11:39 but yes, it moves no matter if the kill switch is on or off #rhrt: 02/03/10 11:47 tommost__: If I'm reading the logs correctly, the left and right speeds (third and forth columns?) are always being recorded as zero #rhrt: 02/03/10 11:48 also, there is stuff in the gps columns. is that garbage? tommost: 02/03/10 11:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator1: 02/03/10 11:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/03/10 11:56 kleinjt: I don't know about the GPS stuff in the logs. #rhrt: 02/03/10 11:56 The zeros for speed may be another side effect of rthc's "fix" for setdc on the motor controllers. tommost: 02/03/10 11:57 >< QUIT : Client Quit #rhrt: 02/03/10 11:58 kleinjt: tommost__ and i will be joining you shortly robominator1: 02/03/10 11:58 >< PART #rhrt: robominator: 02/03/10 11:59 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 260 seconds robominator: 02/03/10 12:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:06 kleinjt: where are you? Lemur2010: 02/03/10 12:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:40 I'm in the CS lab now #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:40 robominator, tommost__: and will be for about the next 40 minutes or so #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:44 kleinjt: robominator said: Dam! I just left there! tommost: 02/03/10 12:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:48 kleinjt: are you hiding? #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:48 robominator: no #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:48 I don't really have anything to talk about though #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:48 the logs aren't very helpful at the moment #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:49 Yeah... #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:50 robominator: it's charged #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:53 The video came out really weird: http://jame.dhcp.rose-hulman.edu/lnk/capture_small.mp4 #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:56 weird #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:56 the stills aren't like that? #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:56 They're like that too. #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:57 Awful Lemur2010: 02/03/10 12:59 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:59 that's the raw data from the camera? #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:59 Scaled down, but yes. #rhrt: 02/03/10 12:59 The original is 300 MB. #rhrt: 02/03/10 13:00 my first suggestion would be to try to run the camera off of wall power instead of the inverter. #rhrt: 02/03/10 13:01 Could that really be it? #rhrt: 02/03/10 13:02 possibly, it's worth a try if you don't have any other ideas #rhrt: 02/03/10 13:02 Yeah, I'll do that. #rhrt: 02/03/10 13:02 It's a problem I've seen before, intermittently. Lemur2010: 02/03/10 13:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/03/10 13:11 Lemur2010: Do you want me to come down there and try to make it run? #rhrt: 02/03/10 13:11 yes please robominator: 02/03/10 13:35 >< PART #rhrt: tommost: 02/03/10 14:00 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds tommost: 02/03/10 14:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/03/10 14:09 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds wahlnj1: 02/03/10 14:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/03/10 14:58 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 260 seconds Lemur2010: 02/03/10 16:44 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. Lemur2010: 02/03/10 17:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/03/10 17:27 >< NICK : Mechatron #rhrt: 02/03/10 17:28 TBoneULS: hey you wahlnj1: 02/03/10 17:39 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/03/10 17:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt Mechatron: 02/03/10 17:46 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. andy753421: 02/03/10 17:49 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer Lemur2010: 02/03/10 18:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/03/10 19:32 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/03/10 19:39 kleinjt: I messed around with the GPS a bit. It looks like the new version doesn't like the Garmin binary protocol the GPS is set to use. #rhrt: 02/03/10 19:39 Unfortunately, gpsctl segfaults when I try to change it back to NMEA. #rhrt: 02/03/10 19:39 I'll play with it some more. Lemur2010: 02/03/10 19:41 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. #rhrt: 02/03/10 19:42 Oh, and I should say that by "doesn't like" I mean "it goes immortal somehow, and has to be pkill -9'd". #rhrt: 02/03/10 19:42 So that's why it showed up as "Connected" in the GUI. #rhrt: 02/03/10 19:43 TBoneULS: Perhaps you should add the parts you need to the Digikey order at https://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/igvc/electronics-todo ? #rhrt: 02/03/10 19:57 Okay, the old packages for gpsd seem to work. I'm getting a "No fix" message. andy753421: 02/03/10 19:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/03/10 20:03 I've pinned the old packages (put them "on hold" in dpkg parlance), so we should be able to keep running the old version. tommost: 02/03/10 20:43 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds tommost: 02/03/10 20:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/03/10 21:16 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! tommost1: 02/03/10 21:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost1: 02/03/10 21:16 >< NICK : tommost tommost1: 02/03/10 22:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/03/10 22:17 >< QUIT : Disconnected by services tommost1: 02/03/10 22:17 >< NICK : tommost tommost: 02/03/10 22:48 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! #rhrt: 02/03/10 23:44 im here now #rhrt: 02/03/10 23:44 ill add the stuff to the digikey order page andy753421: 02/03/10 23:47 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds #rhrt: 02/03/10 23:49 i added my stuff #rhrt: 02/03/10 23:51 theres a couple things on there that we should probably have on hadn that are cheap wahlnj1: 02/04/10 00:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/04/10 00:19 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 264 seconds andy753421: 02/04/10 00:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/04/10 03:10 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/04/10 03:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/04/10 05:20 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/04/10 05:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/04/10 05:44 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/04/10 06:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/04/10 10:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur20101: 02/04/10 10:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/04/10 10:58 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 260 seconds Lemur20101: 02/04/10 12:19 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. tommost: 02/04/10 12:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/04/10 13:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/04/10 13:20 >< NICK : Mechatron tommost: 02/04/10 13:27 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! Mechatron: 02/04/10 13:37 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. Lemur2010: 02/04/10 13:42 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur20101: 02/04/10 13:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/04/10 13:59 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds wahlnj: 02/04/10 16:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/04/10 16:12 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 265 seconds robominator: 02/04/10 16:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur20101: 02/04/10 17:01 >< PART #rhrt: wahlnj: 02/04/10 17:23 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/04/10 17:25 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/04/10 18:24 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/04/10 19:54 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 264 seconds robominator: 02/04/10 19:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/04/10 20:03 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. andy753421: 02/04/10 21:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/04/10 21:19 tommost: how many votes did you get for each name from people not at the meeting? #rhrt: 02/04/10 21:19 I want to submit the registration tomorrow so we need a final decision on the name #rhrt: 02/04/10 21:24 We got one vote from someone not in the meeting, for Moxom's Master. #rhrt: 02/04/10 21:24 ok, then I guess that's the winner #rhrt: 02/04/10 21:24 I got one vote for each from people not at the meeting robominator: 02/05/10 00:30 >< NICK : ________________ ________________: 02/05/10 00:31 >< NICK : Guest8984 Guest8984: 02/05/10 00:31 >< NICK : or__his_mother or__his_mother: 02/05/10 00:33 >< NICK : robominator tommost: 02/05/10 00:38 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! robominator: 02/05/10 00:42 >< PART #rhrt: andy753421: 02/05/10 03:17 >< QUIT : Remote host closed the connection andy753421: 02/05/10 03:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/05/10 03:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/05/10 03:38 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 260 seconds wahlnj1: 02/05/10 06:02 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/05/10 06:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/05/10 10:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/05/10 10:46 ATTENTION: turns out that the panels have been sitting in the mail room for a week #rhrt: 02/05/10 10:47 they were shipped to the ECE department #rhrt: 02/05/10 10:48 and there are a few other loose ends that needs to be addressed because Sue Dayhuff (secretary in the ECE department) said that the panels haven't been paid for. #rhrt: 02/05/10 10:48 wahlnj: i dont know how this happened #rhrt: 02/05/10 10:48 i'm getting it straitened out now. #rhrt: 02/05/10 10:49 kleinjt: tommost__: also, i can see the robot's wireless router from the ECE department Lemur2010: 02/05/10 10:49 >< QUIT : Client Quit #rhrt: 02/05/10 10:59 do not do anything about paying them #rhrt: 02/05/10 10:59 I have already submitted the forms to have a check mailed to them Lemur2010: 02/05/10 11:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/05/10 11:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/05/10 12:16 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. tommost: 02/05/10 12:27 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! 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One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! #rhrt: 02/05/10 18:51 tommost__, rthc, kleinjt: when will the cables for the kill switch and monitor power be done? #rhrt: 02/05/10 18:51 we can't mount the panels until those are ready #rhrt: 02/05/10 18:51 That's Brian's job, IIRC. #rhrt: 02/05/10 18:52 also, are the encoder cables going to be replaced or are those the permanent ones? #rhrt: 02/05/10 18:52 They will be replaced. #rhrt: 02/05/10 18:53 rthc's USB->CAN board finally came in, so that'll be assembled Sunday. #rhrt: 02/05/10 18:53 That should help move things along. compuwizard123_: 02/05/10 18:56 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds Compuwizard123: 02/05/10 18:58 >< JOIN : #rhrt Compuwizard123: 02/05/10 18:58 >< NICK : compuwizard123_ andy753421: 02/05/10 21:08 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/05/10 21:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/05/10 22:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/06/10 00:37 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/06/10 00:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/06/10 01:18 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/06/10 01:18 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/06/10 01:53 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/06/10 02:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/06/10 06:25 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/06/10 06:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/06/10 06:58 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/06/10 07:17 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/06/10 07:42 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/06/10 08:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/06/10 10:41 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer tommost: 02/06/10 10:41 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! 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One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! #rhrt: 02/07/10 09:30 yeah, so i'm sick. i probably won't be at the meeting. someone can start building the can bridge if they'd like wahlnj: 02/07/10 09:45 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/07/10 09:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/07/10 10:43 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/07/10 10:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/07/10 10:50 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/07/10 11:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/07/10 11:32 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/07/10 11:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/07/10 13:04 tommost__: are you on your way #rhrt: 02/07/10 13:22 TBoneULS: I'll be in in 30 minutes or so. #rhrt: 02/07/10 13:22 I slept in. :( wahlnj: 02/07/10 13:46 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/07/10 13:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/07/10 14:36 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/07/10 14:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/07/10 14:39 rthc: I didn't find the parts for the can bridge, so I cleaned up the two electronics desks tommost: 02/07/10 14:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/07/10 15:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/07/10 15:43 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds wahlnj: 02/07/10 17:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/07/10 17:09 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 252 seconds tommost: 02/07/10 19:56 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! 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Lemur2010: 02/09/10 13:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur20101: 02/09/10 13:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/09/10 13:35 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 240 seconds tommost: 02/09/10 14:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur20101: 02/09/10 14:58 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. andy753421: 02/09/10 15:11 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer #rhrt: 02/09/10 15:47 Perhaps kleinjt or someone should make a Digikey order soonish. #rhrt: 02/09/10 15:47 Or nowish. #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:16 okay. I just taked to the brian about stuff he needs for the mast #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:16 I'm giving him another twenty minutes or so to think of stuff, then I'll do the order or something. #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:17 rthc: do we have the RJ connector for the CAN boards? #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:18 if not, we may want a dozen or so #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:19 go ahead #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:21 tommost: I cleaned the camera, but I was in a hurry so I didn't do a very good job #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:21 I'll bring the cleaning cloth back sometime soon #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:22 I noticed. I couldn't find stuff on it. :) #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:22 It's currently in M206, where I'm messing with it (trying to figure out the color stuff). #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:22 rthc, would it be unreasonablle to ask for you to find an RJ jack that fits your board? #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:22 not at all #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:23 please do so #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:23 I'll start lookingn for a serial male connector #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:23 I'm getting some 14 and 18 gauge wires, can you think of anything else we need? #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:24 don't worry about the serial male connector, use the 10pin IDC connector instead #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:24 although i suppose it wouldn't hurt toh ave some around #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:25 Brian says we need small red and black heat shrink tubing, although I'm not sure where you get that #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:25 We're out of serial headers in the computer, BTW. So it'll need to be connected to one externally (or a USB->RS232 adapter internally). #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:26 do we have 10 pin IDC connectors? #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:26 what was the name of the power connector we were considering using to replace molex? #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:26 with shrouds? we may have some left over #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:26 phoenix, i believe #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:27 4 posistion? #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:29 277-1860-ND x10? #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:30 looks good, get the mating connectors too though #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:30 erm, wait, are those right? #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:30 I have no idea #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:30 i don't think they are, those just look like terminal blocks #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:30 yes #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:30 TBoneULS: wake up from the flu and inform us #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:32 rthc: let me know when you've got digikey part numbers for the 10 pin IDC connector and RJ jacks (heh, both of those were redundant) #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:32 I'll get some 28 pin sockets #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:32 http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=151-1118-ND #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:33 10? #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:33 sure #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:34 are we putting the microchip can things on sockets? #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:34 we could, i don't see us replacing them often though #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:35 okay. do we have enough of them? #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:35 http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=HRP10H-ND #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:35 of sockets? no idea, they're not that important. of microchip can things? yeah #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:36 the microchip. ED3128-ND is the socket I'm planning on getting for the atmega. I'll get 4. (I don't remember us having any 28 pin sockets) #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:41 there may be some on the floor in a big tube. #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:41 let me check #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:44 the cheapest unit of wire for red 14 gauge I can find is ~$40, we may want to buy it somewhere else #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:44 we've got 9 28-pin sockets #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:45 okay. #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:45 can you think of anything we need to make your serial->can board? #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:49 no, i can't think #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:50 of anything #rhrt: 02/09/10 16:51 Good save. #rhrt: 02/09/10 17:12 277-1106-ND and 277-1964-ND are some examples of the pheonix connectors #rhrt: 02/09/10 17:12 but bfore we buy some, what do we need? becasue ventures has a shitton of spares #rhrt: 02/09/10 17:12 right, I won't order any then #rhrt: 02/09/10 17:12 if you let me know how many pin we need, i can take a look when im at work next Lemur2010: 02/09/10 17:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/09/10 17:58 So has the order actually gone out? #rhrt: 02/09/10 17:59 Lemur2010: Did those fasteners come in? (When can the keyboard be back on the robot?) #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:02 rthc: We need speed readings from the robot, but they appear to be broken. (Because you disabled PID?) Encoder ticks would be better than speed, actually, but I don't see a way to get them from the controllers. #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:03 yes #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:04 tommost they came in #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:04 tommost: the keyboard will get finished tomorrow #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:04 if nick has a meeting #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:16 kleinjt: Do you have any concerns that we should address in the software meeting tomorrow? #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:18 we'll have a meeting to get that stuff mounted, as long as Lemur2010 doesn't come in early and do it all himself #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:19 Okay, will you have a more secure camera mounting solution ready? #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:20 wahlnj1: dont worry, i have plenty to do #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:20 also #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:20 please tell me you are going to add some structure to the e-stop #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:21 ACTION agrees, but thinks that the camera is a higher priority #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:21 to the plastic behind the e-stop? #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:23 Yes... it is kind of floppy. #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:23 But anyway, the camera... #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:23 we can mount it temporarily again tomorrow #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:24 do you know any more about what it needs permanently? #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:24 My requirements are thus: 1) It must not vibrate so much that the image is blurred. 2) It must not come to harm. 3) It must be protected from the weather such that it can continue functioning in rain. #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:25 Oh, and 4) It must not look janky. #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:25 Other than that, I really don't care much what you do. #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:25 does it vibrate too much now with that fixed mount? #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:26 I do not know. The images we took last time weren't very helpful, which is why it needs to be mounted ASAP so we can get more. #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:26 And why we need the keyboard, and why the monitor needs power... #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:26 ok, we'll take care of that tomorrow #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:27 I can do the camera before the software meeting if needed #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:27 i was thinking a pair of steel bars to keep people from punching through the plastic #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:28 Unless the keyboard, and monitor and camera power will be there as well, it won't do too much good. #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:29 I can put the keyboard back on the way it was before, and I'll check with Brian about the cables #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:29 kleinjt: Is Brian waiting on components for the cables? Lemur2010: 02/09/10 18:37 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:53 tommost: it does currently return ticks #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:53 What command? #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:53 hold on #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:54 ok, i'm actually just going to change it #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:54 Fine by me. #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:54 do you want me to return the ticks elapsed since the last query? #rhrt: 02/09/10 18:55 kleinjt: What would you prefer? #rhrt: 02/09/10 19:19 tommost: cables will not be ready tomorrow morning, but they might be ready in the afternoon tommost: 02/09/10 19:31 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! #rhrt: 02/09/10 19:51 wahlnj1: It would be great if they were done that afternoon. andy753421: 02/09/10 20:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/09/10 20:18 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/09/10 20:38 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/09/10 21:01 tommost__: I'll make sure the mechanical stuff is done, and see if Brian can get the electrical stuff done andy753421: 02/09/10 21:08 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds #rhrt: 02/09/10 21:13 okay, I just woke up #rhrt: 02/09/10 21:14 tommost__: Brian only mentioned wanting wire. I am not planning on buying that from digikey, since the lowest amount I have found is ~$45 #rhrt: 02/09/10 21:16 rthc: is the other option ticks elapsed totol? #rhrt: 02/09/10 21:16 sure, until it overflows i guess #rhrt: 02/09/10 21:17 s/totol/total/... what size integer would it be? #rhrt: 02/09/10 21:17 16 bit is all you'll get #rhrt: 02/09/10 21:17 ACTION bows #rhrt: 02/09/10 21:18 and total clicks won't help a whole lot, keep in mind ticks are added and subtracted #rhrt: 02/09/10 21:19 okay, change in clicks is fine, as long as every time the update function for the kalman filter is called it has the change in clicks since it was last called #rhrt: 02/09/10 21:20 ok #rhrt: 02/09/10 21:20 (looks at tommost__) I don't know if that will be the case or not #rhrt: 02/09/10 21:20 i'll put that on tomorrow then andy753421: 02/09/10 21:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/09/10 23:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/09/10 23:02 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 252 seconds andy753421: 02/09/10 23:07 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds #rhrt: 02/09/10 23:37 kleinjt: That will be easy enough, though it may necessitate some modifications to the transcript logger. #rhrt: 02/09/10 23:52 rthc, TBoneULS: should I order the parts for the serial board off the electronics todo list? #rhrt: 02/09/10 23:52 which serial board? the ones for gps and microstrain? #rhrt: 02/09/10 23:53 http://rhitrobotics.org/wiki/igvc/electronics-todo #rhrt: 02/09/10 23:54 I'm guessing it is for the GPS and microstrain, but I don't know #rhrt: 02/09/10 23:54 yeah, looks like it. i don't know which of the parts he donated for that which he wanted replaced, best wait until he responds #rhrt: 02/09/10 23:54 okay. #rhrt: 02/09/10 23:57 I asked him to put that list up just the other day. #rhrt: 02/09/10 23:57 It's newer than the completed cards, so I'd assume it's the stuff that needs replacing. #rhrt: 02/10/10 00:05 okay. so the order is going to be components for the remote killswitch, and enclosure for the remote killswitch, rj jacks for can, some heatshrink, and everything off the serial board list on the wiki #rhrt: 02/10/10 00:06 total looks to be about $55ish shipped #rhrt: 02/10/10 00:08 oh, and some solder.. #rhrt: 02/10/10 00:11 is 23 gauge okay? #rhrt: 02/10/10 00:13 SMDSW.031 4OZ-ND is what I'm planning on getting #rhrt: 02/10/10 00:28 yes, order the suff on the list under teh serial board seciont #rhrt: 02/10/10 00:28 section #rhrt: 02/10/10 01:12 okay, order sent. tommost: 02/10/10 01:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/10/10 02:29 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! wahlnj: 02/10/10 02:50 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 02:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 03:17 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer andy753421: 02/10/10 03:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 08:52 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/10/10 09:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 09:01 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 240 seconds wahlnj1: 02/10/10 09:23 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 09:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 10:28 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 10:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/10/10 11:04 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 11:06 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 11:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 11:18 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 11:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 12:03 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 12:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/10/10 12:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 12:31 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 258 seconds #rhrt: 02/10/10 12:57 the digikey order shipped wahlnj1: 02/10/10 13:13 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 13:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 13:27 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 13:28 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 13:34 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 13:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 13:49 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 13:50 >< JOIN : #rhrt cranberry: 02/10/10 14:16 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds wahlnj: 02/10/10 14:39 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 14:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/10/10 15:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 15:11 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 258 seconds wahlnj1: 02/10/10 15:14 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 15:16 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/10/10 15:41 I've wired stuff together in the mast, but the electronics case needs to be reassembled and put in place before the robot can run. #rhrt: 02/10/10 15:41 I have to go to work now. tommost: 02/10/10 15:41 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! wahlnj: 02/10/10 15:46 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 15:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 15:58 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 16:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_rhv: 02/10/10 16:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/10/10 17:08 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 17:10 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 276 seconds andy753421: 02/10/10 17:32 >< QUIT : Remote host closed the connection andy753421: 02/10/10 17:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/10/10 17:52 >< QUIT : Remote host closed the connection wahlnj: 02/10/10 18:36 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/10/10 18:38 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 276 seconds tommost: 02/10/10 18:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost_rhv: 02/10/10 18:50 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. wahlnj: 02/10/10 18:57 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 18:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 19:07 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 19:07 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/10/10 19:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 19:14 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 19:15 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/10/10 19:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 19:27 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 276 seconds compuwizard123_: 02/10/10 19:56 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 260 seconds wahlnj: 02/10/10 20:20 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/10/10 20:20 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 276 seconds wahlnj: 02/10/10 20:22 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 20:23 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/10/10 20:24 tommost: any idea how to make my computer not disconnect and reconnect so often? #rhrt: 02/10/10 20:24 Have you tried using a different Ethernet port, or a different cable? #rhrt: 02/10/10 20:25 no, would the fact that I'm connected through a router make a difference? #rhrt: 02/10/10 20:25 Perhaps. #rhrt: 02/10/10 20:26 I suggest trying different configurations. That'll help you figure out what's causing it. wahlnj: 02/10/10 20:33 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 20:34 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/10/10 20:34 tommost: this is the message I get from Pidgin when it disconnects: Lost connection with server: Connection interrupted by other software on your computer. #rhrt: 02/10/10 20:35 I added an exception in my antivirus software a while ago #rhrt: 02/10/10 20:36 Well, from our end it looks like you timeout, so I'm guessing that whatever is interrupting the connection isn't letting freenode know. wahlnj: 02/10/10 20:44 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 20:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 21:29 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 21:30 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/10/10 21:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 21:45 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/10/10 21:46 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/10/10 22:00 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/10/10 22:01 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds wahlnj1: 02/10/10 22:24 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds #rhrt: 02/10/10 22:27 So I've figured out that somehow our C Python modules are conflicting with GStreamer. #rhrt: 02/10/10 22:28 thats bad? #rhrt: 02/10/10 22:29 It's confusing. #rhrt: 02/10/10 22:50 Also, we need to test that the new power cables work and then put the electronics case back on the robot. #rhrt: 02/10/10 22:50 And we need to label which cable goes where this time, or we'll have to figure out which encoder cable goes where *again*. #rhrt: 02/10/10 22:51 kleinjt: Have those encoder boards been sent out yet? #rhrt: 02/10/10 22:55 i'll send that out tomorrow once i verify that we have boards made by him with oval pads #rhrt: 02/10/10 22:56 Oh, I thought we were going to use Advanced for that. #rhrt: 02/10/10 22:57 no, not for something this basic. #rhrt: 02/10/10 22:58 Are you going to put some sort of enclosure around them to protect them from water/mud/etc? #rhrt: 02/10/10 22:58 not a bad idea, but that seems more in the realm of the mechanical team #rhrt: 02/10/10 22:59 Yeah. #rhrt: 02/10/10 23:02 balls robominator: 02/10/10 23:08 >< PART #rhrt: andy753421: 02/11/10 03:26 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/11/10 03:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/11/10 04:29 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/11/10 06:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/11/10 08:43 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds Lemur2010: 02/11/10 08:47 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/11/10 08:56 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. andy753421: 02/11/10 09:12 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/11/10 10:21 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/11/10 10:29 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/11/10 10:40 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer Lemur2010: 02/11/10 10:42 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. Lemur2010: 02/11/10 10:51 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/11/10 11:35 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! Lemur2010: 02/11/10 12:14 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. Lemur2010: 02/11/10 13:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/11/10 13:05 >< QUIT : Client Quit Lemur2010: 02/11/10 13:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt Lemur2010: 02/11/10 13:30 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. Lemur2010: 02/11/10 13:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/11/10 13:53 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer Lemur2010: 02/11/10 15:10 >< PART #rhrt: robominator: 02/11/10 17:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/11/10 19:43 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/11/10 19:55 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/11/10 20:53 >< PART #rhrt: robominator: 02/11/10 23:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/12/10 01:56 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! andy753421: 02/12/10 04:41 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/12/10 04:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/12/10 06:19 >< QUIT : Quit: Leaving. andy753421: 02/12/10 10:16 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/12/10 10:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/12/10 11:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/12/10 11:26 >< JOIN : #rhrt robominator: 02/12/10 11:43 >< PART #rhrt: tommost: 02/12/10 12:35 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! tommost: 02/12/10 18:40 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/12/10 21:16 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! andy753421: 02/13/10 04:43 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 246 seconds andy753421: 02/13/10 05:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt rhrtlog: 02/13/10 09:55 >< MODE rhrtlog : +i rhrtlog: 02/13/10 09:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/13/10 09:56 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 09:58 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 240 seconds wahlnj: 02/13/10 10:03 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/13/10 10:05 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 240 seconds wahlnj: 02/13/10 10:05 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/13/10 10:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/13/10 10:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/13/10 10:35 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 10:35 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 240 seconds wahlnj1: 02/13/10 10:37 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/13/10 10:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/13/10 10:45 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 10:46 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 240 seconds wahlnj: 02/13/10 11:06 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/13/10 11:06 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 240 seconds wahlnj: 02/13/10 11:10 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/13/10 11:11 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 11:39 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/13/10 11:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/13/10 11:57 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/13/10 11:58 So I need someone from the electronics team (kleinjt?) to come down here and wire up the amp jack on the electronics case so that I can plug in the camera. #rhrt: 02/13/10 11:59 Also, I notice that the Digikey order came in. Will we have a new killswitch tomorrow? wahlnj1: 02/13/10 11:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 11:59 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 240 seconds wahlnj1: 02/13/10 12:11 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/13/10 12:13 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 12:32 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/13/10 12:33 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 12:39 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/13/10 12:41 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 12:43 >< QUIT : Client Quit wahlnj: 02/13/10 12:44 >< JOIN : #rhrt andy753421: 02/13/10 12:54 >< QUIT : Remote host closed the connection andy753421: 02/13/10 12:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 12:59 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/13/10 12:59 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 13:30 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/13/10 13:31 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 13:38 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/13/10 13:39 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 13:46 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/13/10 13:48 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 14:08 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/13/10 14:09 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:20 I'm strongly considering doing the new killswitch on protoboard, unless there are any reasonable objections. #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:21 my only objection is historical #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:22 honestly, whatever you want to do is fine, but making a pcb sounds like a better option. wahlnj1: 02/13/10 14:22 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:23 how? that would cost about $30 more and take about two weeks longer. #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:23 Well, it would cost about $0 more. #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:23 But the two weeks thing is valid. wahlnj: 02/13/10 14:23 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 240 seconds #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:25 that's valid #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:25 i'll throw out that gary has been having turnaround times of 1 day as of late #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:26 historically, I haven't had any success in getting him to produce the board I intend #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:41 rthc: could you send me the job file you were using for 4pcb? #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:42 also, I think I found an error in your serial-can board, the ground on the 10 pin header isn't connected #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:43 yeah, looks like you're right #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:43 at least that's easy enough to fix #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:44 do you have a copy of the cam job file you used for the 4pcb order? #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:47 silence means no? #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:47 silence means i'm looking #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:49 looks like i just used the sparkfun cam file wahlnj: 02/13/10 14:49 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:49 but i thoguht i had to change something on it... wahlnj1: 02/13/10 14:49 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 240 seconds #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:52 okay #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:53 if you do use it, just use a gerber viewer and make sure it looks right #rhrt: 02/13/10 14:59 okay. I sent out the kill remote board to freedfm #rhrt: 02/13/10 15:00 I'll hear back monday morning... #rhrt: 02/13/10 15:02 I'll head over and start soldering the serial-can board.. #rhrt: 02/13/10 15:03 Excellent. #rhrt: 02/13/10 15:05 freedfm responded, the only problem was a 0mil trace #rhrt: 02/13/10 15:05 I suspect it is complaining about the outer dimensions thingy, I'm trying again #rhrt: 02/13/10 15:09 yeah, the dimension layer was somehow ending up on top copper wahlnj: 02/13/10 15:13 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/13/10 15:14 >< JOIN : #rhrt #rhrt: 02/13/10 15:15 it passes #rhrt: 02/13/10 15:16 now we just need to figure out how to have sponsored boards produced.. wahlnj: 02/13/10 15:16 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer #rhrt: 02/13/10 15:17 "Send it to Advanced Circuits and tell them to use the sponsorship." #rhrt: 02/13/10 15:17 And ask for a sticker. wahlnj: 02/13/10 15:19 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 15:26 >< QUIT : Read error: Connection reset by peer wahlnj: 02/13/10 15:27 >< JOIN : #rhrt tommost: 02/13/10 15:40 >< QUIT : Quit: One, two! One, two! and through and through / The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! wahlnj1: 02/13/10 15:54 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj: 02/13/10 15:56 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 260 seconds #rhrt: 02/13/10 15:59 rthc: please add values to the resistors and capacitors on the can board schematic and commit it if you'd like me to put those in #rhrt: 02/13/10 16:04 what temperature setting would you reccomend using the iron at? wahlnj: 02/13/10 16:05 >< JOIN : #rhrt wahlnj1: 02/13/10 16:06 >< QUIT : Ping timeout: 260 seconds #rhrt: 02/13/10 16:08 kleinjt: done, let me know if i missed something #rhrt: 02/13/10 16:09